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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15089465

Americans Are Open To Cheap Chinese Cars. That’s 'Scary' For The Rest Of The Auto Industry

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

If they can pass the crash tests and get over other regulatory issues then sure make them available and let the market decide. I recall when Hyundai first entered the US market and the Yugo. One was able to change to meet US market demands but it took a decade and the other died.

Chinese brands compete in other markets against US, Japanese, EU, and Korean brands. In my experience, most folks are choosing non-Chinese brands because the quality, performance and features are not competitive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

If they can pass the crash tests and get over other regulatory issues

Including labor conditions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Sounds like boot kissing, nobody I know doesn't give a fuck about features other than air conditioning and maybe a sunroof if they're fancy. They certainly don't give a fuck about performance we aren't a bunch of teenagers trying to wave our dicks around with a sports car anymore.

I'm honestly quite confident if Chinese cars were allowed to compete and drag the prices down they would actually be quite popular. I know a lot of people that would love one of those little Japanese tiny trucks if they could get their hands on one without all the bullshit of importing it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Performance isn't "high performance racing stuff", it is ride comfort, normal cornering stability, stopping stability, general safety, etc.

I lived in China for 12 years. Folks there bought foreign brands even though they cost more because they were just better.

Now I live in Vietnam, as people here transition from motorcycles to cars, they have plenty of choices and most choose non-Chinese brands. Toyota and Hyundai are the biggest sellers for sedans, they and Ford are the biggest sellers for SUVs, Toyota, Mitsubishi, and Ford are the biggest sellers for the light trucks (Ranger, Hilux, etc).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

That’s great for legacy manufacturers to be able to compete in those segments. However it might be completely different with EVs, where legacy manufacturers only have a small number of a few high priced models, and are backing off from them.t. Theyre not even trying to compete. They have no history of good vehicles. They don’t have any ready alternatives. Maybe things are different outside the US, but legacy manufacturers are ceding the market to whoever comes