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Google layoffs: The company plans to set up a new team in Munich, Germany which would act as "cheaper" labour, the report claimed.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (11 children)

Out of curiosity, does anybody know how big was the team?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Python team was ~10 people I think

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (8 children)

10 * 350k of total comp is 3.5 million dollars... guessing the german counterparts probably get 120k of total comp so only 1.2 million dollars, assuming it's 1:1 staff swap.

Never heard of american software engineers at FAANG getting anything less than superstar sf bay wages, never heard of crazy wages in all of the EU for any kind of worker.... but maybe someone can correct me on the german team's salaries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Wait... You get 350k doing python coding?!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The Python team weren't just random folks writing Python. Several are core Python contributors who maintained official forks, ran library matching for internal software, and gave back to the language and community. They didn't just go for cheaper talent, they replaced some arguably irreplaceable engineers and shat over OSS at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

You get that working for Google in Bay Area if you're senior, no matter the language.

Those guys were participating in Python itself, maintaining the Python tooling for the whole company, served as a help desk for everything Python... Yeah I'm pretty sure they had a big salary.

It's not your little "glue libraries together" Python coding.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

$350k includes the salary but also all of the health insurance benefits, taxes, stock options, office space and perks, compute hardware, software services… the works. An employer will have an averaged overhead factor for their skilled workforce, which can be anywhere between 1.5 and 2.5 typically. A worker with an annual pre-tax salary of $140k could cost Google $350k in overall expenses per year. Labor is expensive.

Also, these people weren’t just making simple Python scripts. Most of them were contributing core functionality into Python itself and managing the internal Python version and the ecosystem of Google software stacks that depend on it.

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