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So now what distro are we running for LTS desktops? (lemmy.zip)

submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Ubuntu has too many problems for me to want to run it. However, it has occurred to me that there aren't a lot of distros that are like the Ubuntu LTS.

Basic requirements for a LTS:

at least 2 years of support
semi recent versions of applications like Chrome and Firefox (might consider flatpak)
a stable experience that isn't buggy
fast security updates

Distros considered:

Debian (stable)
Rocky Linux
openSUSE
Cent OS stream
Fedora

As far as I can tell none of the options listed are quite suitable. They are either to unstable or way to out of date. I like Rocky Linux but it doesn't seem to be desktop focused as far as I can tell. I would use Debian but Debian doesn't have the greatest security defaults. (No selinux profiles out of the box)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Stable means unchanging in this context.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

No, stable for me means "it's not buggy and broken"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I am not going to say that you are wrong. Make your own choices.

For words to be useful though, they have to mean the same thing for the person sharing them and the person receiving them. Definitions matter.

In the Linux community, “stable” means not changing. It is not a statement about quality or reliability. The others words you used, “buggy” and “broken”, are better quality references.

Again, you do you. But expect “the community” to reinforce their definitions because common understanding is essential if something like Lemmy is going to work.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

That's a you problem. Your interpretation is wrong.

Quoting from the Debian Manual:

This is what Debian's Stable name means: that, once released, the operating system remains relatively unchanging over time.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and that's exactly the reason why I'd never recommend debian for a desktop

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Just to be clear, the "reason" here is that your expectations are not correctly aligned with the project goals.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

a stable experience that isn’t buggy

Stable has a particular meaning with distros but I think the context here is using the plain English definition of the word.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

STABLE definition: 1. firmly fixed or not likely to move or change

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/stable

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

We are talking about LTS distros, not about bridges. The context is pretty clear.