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Mass Grave in Gaza Points to “Execution-Style” Killings by Israeli Forces
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There comes a time when you realize putting in the work to be logical and consistent means nothing to fanatics. They either have no idea what words mean, or they don't care, so keeping it short is just as good.
They don't care that making incredulous claims destroys their credibility. It's basically the Trump tactic of inundation the headlines with bullsht hoping something sticks.
So it'll be easy for you to draw meaningful distinctions between current Israel and Novemberpogrome-era Nazi Germany, right?
Wut
I'm inviting you to respond to the topic of the thread you responded to.
A Nazi is a nazi; an Israeli is not a nazi. I don't think they are currently equivalent. There are undoubtedly horrible ones, though. I watched a PBS report on an old Israeli woman who has made it her mission in life to force Palestinians out of Gaza. She is bats*ht crazy.
You don't understand what a comparison is, do you? If you're comparing 2 things, they're definitionally not the same single thing - I asked for meaningful differences between the two.
If there's no meaningful difference, I think it would be sensible to respond as though they're dealing with the rise of the Nazis.
Some similarities - they're far-right authoritarians that have pivoted their leadership around the creation and subjugation of a ethno-religious "other", while spouting openly genocidal rhetoric, and beginning the early steps of the genocide they've laid the plans for. They're hostile to their neighbours, and will undoubtedly move on to annexing them given the opportunity once the Palestinian annexation is complete.
Some differences would be that Israel is less homophobic than the Nazis were at that point, and that Israel established an apartheid state and (open air) concentration camp as a preparatory step, which the Nazis didn't. Israel also funded Hamas's rise to power over the secular moderates to manufacture pretext, which I didn't see from the Nazis (who had less need, as they were less reliant on external support) - I'd argue all that makes Israel worse on balance.
Feel free to take another run at it if you like.
Nah, you are making a poor comparison and I don't care to even read past the first few sentences of your post.
Suit yourself, Rudolph Jitler.
Catch you in a while, crocodile 🐊
You're right, but it means the world to others who understand.
That's true, unless of course the bots manage to downvote you to oblivion. Thankfully there aren't enough posts on Lemmy to do that just yet.
People disagreeing doesn't mean they are bots automatically, posts defending the IDF get downvoted because there is more than ample evidence of the IDF committing some of the worst atrocities I've seen in my life, and they have been doing it for years.
There is a slightly more global perspective here than Reddit so it's less common that there will be echo chambers supporting Western propaganda. People falling for Israeli propaganda today haven't been paying attention, or they agree with Israels goal of eliminating Palestine. Anyone that has been looking into the situation for longer than a few years has seen every line, every spin, every rationalization Israel can make.
Bots are for downvotes.
Yeah bots can downvote, I'm saying it's easy to say something was downvoted because of bots, there is no way to prove it right or wrong. It's also very possible that many actual people disagree with the comment.
Sure, so we will never know. But it's probably telling enough that accounts frequently come and go here. I don't keep track, but many of the most active usernames last week are gone this week.
I don't have that experience, I've seen a lot of the same users many times. A lot of people come here as a first step into the fediverse also. I first heard of Lemmy.world after trying to find a better reddit alternative, I may have made an account, but found a different federated instance that was more to my liking.
Welp, their posts were also deleted. As a first step they are trying to get a foothold here, and after they fail they disappear, just to try again and go through the cycle again.