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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

What direction the sun rise is not binary, unlike if a statement is derogatory, the sun can rise in the east, north east, South east, North or south.

If the claim that the sun sometimes rises in east is true than the claim that the sun always rises in the east is false and so is that the claim the sun never rises in the east.

If the claim that illegal is sometimes derogatory is true then the the claim illegal is always derogatory or never derogatory is false.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If the claim that illegal is sometimes derogatory is true then the the claim illegal is always derogatory or never derogatory is false.

No it isn't. Nothing about "sometimes" being true itself proves the corollary "always" is false.

Besides, you would think you could end this by giving the example to refuse to proffer of a non-derogatory use.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No it isn’t. Nothing about “sometimes” being true itself proves the corollary “always” is false.

You're going to have to provide examples where sometimes means always.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/sometimes

on some occasions but not always or often:

on some occasions but not always or often illegal can be derogatory.

Besides, you would think you could end this by giving the example to refuse to proffer of a non-derogatory use.

There is no way you'll be honest about the statement. You've all ready stated it's a slur no matter how it's used.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You’re going to have to provide examples where sometimes means always.

I'm not the one making the claim here, you are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I’m not the one making the claim here, you are.

You keep claiming illegal is always derogatory even though the definition states otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The definition does not indicate it can be not derogatory—which makes sense because it's derogatory.

You despite claiming sans evidence that it is possible to refer to a human being with a pejorative adjective and it be anything other than derogatory, won't even back up your claim with a single non-derogatory example of its use.

I get why you won't—'cause you can't—but if you were right you'd think You could give an example rather than litigating the implied corollaries to "sometimes".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The definition does not indicate it can be not derogatory—which makes sense because it’s derogatory.

It does that what sometimes means. They would use the word always or possiblly omit it and state illegal is derogatory. They instead use sometimes.

If you can't be honest about the definition of the word sometimes then why would you be honest about if the statement is derogatory.

Tell you what, if you can show when sometimes indicates something always happens I'll give an example.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Sometimes" is different than "Sometimes although not always"

That I why I had to use different words to type the two different concepts.
Your definition only listed the first, which does not inherently indicate the second.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

“Sometimes” is different than “Sometimes although not always”

That's a common mistake to think that but sometimes and not always have the same meaning. Your mistake is so common that there are many articles highlighting this redundancy.

https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/05/31/sometimes-always/

sometimes always

Expressions like “not always,” “don’t always,” and “aren’t always” overlap in meaning with “sometimes,” but don’t belong in the same phrase with this word—they’re redundant.

“Sometimes I don’t always feel like jogging” doesn’t make any sense. Say either “sometimes I don’t feel like jogging” or “I don’t always feel like jogging.”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The link you offered does not seem authoritative.
The example it proffered of:

“Sometimes I don’t always feel like jogging” doesn’t make any sense.

Makes perfect sense.

Are you going to keep litigating "Sometimes inherently means sometimes not" or are you going to provide an example of a non-pejorative use of referring to a human being as though they themself were illegal?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The link you offered does not seem authoritative.

I think a PHD in comparative literature is more than authoritative enough.

https://brians.wsu.edu/

The quote was from a series of entries entitled "Common Errors in English Usage"

“Sometimes I don’t always feel like jogging” doesn’t make any sense.

Makes perfect sense.

I'm sure it makes sense to you, there are many people that make that mistake.

Here's another link. I'm still waiting for any link that shows sometimes can mean always.

https://www.beedictionary.com/common-errors/sometimes_not_always_vs_sometimes_vs_not_always

Expressions like “not always,” “don’t always,” and “aren’t always” overlap in meaning with “sometimes,” but don’t belong in the same phrase with this word—they’re redundant. “Sometimes I don’t always feel like jogging” doesn’t make any sense. Say either “sometimes I don’t feel like jogging” or “I don’t always feel like jogging.”

Here's another link to help you understand the difference between sometimes and always.

https://linguodan.com/en/difference-adverbs-frequency-en/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm happy for you ...or sorry that happened.

That's alot of words which notably are not an example of the adjective "illegal" being used as though it were a noun to describe a human being and it not being derogatory.

Come on, bill Clinton. You just gonna yap about what "is" is or you gonna prove your point? Make with the example.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Don't get upset, lots of people have issues understanding how sometimes is used. I have a lot of trouble understanding the nuances of a 2nd language.

Looks like you've ran out of excuses, and moved to name calling. I've provided definitions of illegal and sometimes. Showing that illegal can be used as a noun and sometimes that the use of illegal as a noun is not derogatory.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Are you still on this? You went in circles so I left.

Still no example, huh?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Still no example, huh?

If you have trouble understanding what sometimes means then an example will go way over your head.

You're welcome to show me where sometimes can mean always.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No I get it, you can't prove your point. You don't have to keep running around with dictionaries that don't prove your point to impress me. It doesn't change my view of you at all to know you're wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry you have trouble understanding simple words like sometimes. A dictionary is the only way to educate you on its meaning. Your willfully ignorant view that sometimes can mean always is the crux of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

If you're not making with the example you insist exist I'm not even gonna read your posts as they're a waste of time.