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In the sixth episode of the show, we found out about Shady Sands' fall in 2277. Four years before New Vegas starts. This retcons New Vegas. No one in the NCR talks about how their capital got nuked in NV. In the quest You'll Know It When It Happens, the president of the New California Republic visits the Hoover Dam. Why would the president visit the dam after the capital got attacked? Hell, why is the NCR still in the Mojave Wasteland? It doesn't make sense. So yes the show does retcons New Vegas.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

IGN had an interview with Todd Howard and brought up the confusion and he said the events of New Vegas are canon and that Shady Sands was bombed after 2281. The sign outside Shady Sands in the series also refers to it as the first capital of the NCR, which would imply there's at least one other.

https://www.ign.com/articles/fallout-official-timeline-confirmed-how-the-show-fits-in-with-the-games

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Here's the screenshot with nuke on the board. I don't see an date with the bomb. The only date I see is "Fall of Shady Sands 2277" so yeah.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Sorry I'm late to this, but the board suggests the destruction happened some time after 2277, not that it happened in 2277. The fall of shady sands apparently is before the bombing.

New vegas has been confirmed canon by bethesda.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think it's somewhat ambiguous. It lists the fall as 2277, but then there's an arrow to the mushroom cloud. So it doesn't say it was nuked in 2277, but it doesn't actually say when the nuke occurred either. But Todd Howard says New Vegas is canon and the nuke came after, so that pretty much answers the question, doesn't it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

so that pretty much answers the question, doesn’t it?

No. The only date we have is 2277. So based on the info we have right now. Shady Sands got nuked in 2277.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Is that because you don't accept what Todd Howard and Christopher Nolan said about the timeline?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Lol probably. Classic "It's not MY ideal canon, therefore, regardless of official confirmation, I refuse to believe anything else!" fanboy syndrom. I.e. the worst kind of fanboy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Why not just say it in the show. It will make things so clearer. But no they can't do that. Also in the IGN article, he gives no date. So the only date we do have at this time is 2277.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

A lot of things in the show are ambiguous and only very clear to people who played the games. Please stop with this fake outrage culture.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

ok but nobody said in the show that it was nuked in 2277, either. ya'll are upset by your interpretation of a number written on a blackboard by an unknown character.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Okay, fair enough. I do agree it's ambiguous, but I don't draw the same conclusion.