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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Seems you're of the mind that Israel has no right to exist. 

Israel has a right to exist but not in the way they exist now. They exist through murdering, humiliating, apartheid, stealing land and genocide. If back in the day they politely asked the Palestinian people there to live together in peace. That would be an acceptable reason and right to exist. 

So no, I don’t think Israel has a right to exist on the way they made the state. Because that means, Palestinians have no right anymore to their own land that was stolen.

It is and stays Palestinian land and the Palestinians have right to it. An occupier cannot become its owner. Never.

You're describing a warzone. Maybe tell your buddies in Hamas to stop using cities as human shields, oh wait they want the highest June of civilian casualties as possible because other than taking hostages, human shields are is their last cowardly leverage. Even Japan surrendered and they were an actual country. 

Got any trustable source for your claims of “human shields” and “highest civilian casualties”? 

I always find it ironic how Israel supporters claim a lot but zero evidence to back it up and make things immensely personal. It seems Israel supporters cannot discuss without being emotional. 

Not only that, it is Israel who has been murdering more than 30 000 civilians and not Hamas. 

Also majority of the Israeli people don’t even want the Likud party anymore and they don’t believe in this “war”. This isn’t a war, this is a genocide. A military backed by US Vs a normal group that calls themselves Hamas. 

Only 15% of Israelis want Netanyahu to keep job after Gaza war, poll finds | Reuters

Israel’s war on Gaza – six relentless months of death and destruction | Israel War on Gaza News | Al Jazeera

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yes they built 500 mi of tunnels in an area only 25 miles wide. They put them under the homes of their families and friends and hold their families and friends to stay there and keep working, keep living, don't mind the terror tunnels under your house.

That's called using entire cities as human shields.

Then they told people the evacuations were a hoax and instead of leaving their building after getting a phone call from the IDF saying it's about to be bombed, people should go stand on the roof instead.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

So instead of giving actual answer with trustable sources; you come back with more claims without sources.

I cannot take you serious at all.

You can continue commenting but I refuse to comment back.

EDIT: hm. I still decided to respond back.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not saying anything controversial. I don't need citations for basic uncontroverted facts.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_tunnel_warfare_in_the_Gaza_Strip

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I’m not talking about “controversial”, I’m talking about actual trustable sources. Wikipedia isn’t really trustable as almost anyone can edit it.

Here’s Wikipedia’s own page about who can edit their stuff; Wikipedia is a wiki, meaning anyone can edit nearly any[1] page and improve articles immediately. You do not need to register to do this, and anyone who has edited is known as a Wikipedian or editor. Small edits add up, and every editor can be proud to have made Wikipedia better for all.

Anyway; it is clear as day - you’re an Israeli supporter and do not care about Palestinian lives. You (unfortunately) ignore all the atrocities Israel has done from 1948 up to 2024 (ongoing) and only blame Hamas.

So I don’t think there’s any valuable reason to continue discussing with you.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hamas admits it built 350 kilometers of tunnels and that was 10 years ago like what are you even talking about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Then where’s your trustable source?

You claim things without trustable sources. That’s “trust me bro”.

Never mind, I can’t believe, I have been dealing with you for the day. I’ll just block you.

EDIT: up until now you have not provided any trustable source of your 3 claims:

  • Human shield
  • Highest casualties
  • The tunnels

You might be right, you might be wrong. But how can anyone trust you without any actual trustable sources? (cannot).

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ridiculous. I can see for myself and so can you.