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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Racial discrimination - depends on the region. Much of Europe is still fairly homogenous, thus the racism there cannot be statistically as harmful as in the US (which is not to say that those areas can't be or aren't quite racist). And yet I don't believe those areas are exempt from the general trend with mental illnesses, as I see at least in my own country. And even in the more heterogenous areas this probably barely begins to account for the trend, the illnesses are not confined to the discriminated populations.

Sexual discrimination is what I include under things that are "at worst, not increasing". If it's not rising , it doesn't explain the rise in mental illnesses.

In the end, out of four proposed causes two are clearly irrelevant, and two can account for the trend only partially at most.

with the rise of right-wing parties

IMO many of these parties are also symptoms of phone and internet overuse too. Much of the ideas, values and language of many new European right-wing parties is clearly imported from online American conservative discourse, without regard for the reality of local society. In my country where gender transitions are very difficult to undergo, where non-binary people simply do not exist in the public sphere at all, new right-wing parties will still talk about the nefarious "gender ideology", declaring there can be only two genders, etc. This is literal Internet-induced delusion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Discrimination exists everywhere in the world. I don’t care how utopian you think your European nation is, you are not immune. If you think you don’t have any prejudices and that it isn’t a problem where you live, then the problem is actually worse than you think.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You're ignoring the fact I wrote "which is not to say that those areas can’t be or aren’t quite racist". The racism, no matter how heinous, if it can only affect a smaller percentage of the population, or those who aren't even the citizens of the country (as it happens with migrants from the Middle East and north Africa), cannot have much to do with the mental illnesses of European teenagers accross all social and ethnic groups.

I do not get the impression you're even trying to argue against my or Haidt's position at this point, you've simply waved away all the arguments he has brought up, and now are ignoring entire sentences from my comments.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That is a pretty uncharitable way to describe what I’ve written.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As opposed to ignoring a whole sentence that I wrote in order to make me come off as if I deny the existence of racism?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Maybe you shouldn’t downplay the existence of racism due to racial homogeneity by handwaving it away and some vague appeal to “stats” you don’t have next time? I don’t know what else to tell you.