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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Let's take that logic outward a step...

Stocks are digital these days. Cryptocurrency is digital. So you're basically saying those should be licensed to people, not owned.

Ownership has nothing to do with the tangibility of the thing in the age of the Internet. And to say otherwise is missing the point of ownership in the first place.

If I outright buy a movie, whether digital or not, I should own it -- be able to download it, play it whenever I want, in perpetuity. If I subscribe to a service such as Disney+, then I fully know that I am purchasing a license to view their content.

The logistics of providing such ownership is the cost of doing business, just like it is for Blu-ray. I would argue that ownership should be even easier, logistically, for digital goods because there is no actual manufacturing effort involved (aside from initial production of, say, a movie).

The only reason companies want to license digital goods, instead of providing ownership to those who buy it, is greed (edit: and control).

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You chose funny examples because a lot of people basically own a “license“ of those things and don’t even know it. Especially if they’re using a crypto exchange. They don’t own shit

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes, they actually do. They’re tokens of ownership that can easily be converted to money. It’s called an asset.

This is why this world is so fucked. People quibble over definitions of things while the rich assholes running the show get richer.

And so many in this thread want to keep it that way.

Oh well, not like I can convince anyone here of anything, nor do I care to try. Keep believeing what you want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If you buy on an exchange and don’t transfer to your wallet no you do not own it. Until it’s in your wallet, it’s theirs. They will transfer it to you when you call for it. THEN it’s yours.

Not your keys, not your crypto.