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There are supposed to be 136 hostages in Gaza.
So are you saying this article you posted contains misinformation? Or did you not read it?
At one point both Israel and Hamas seemed to agree that there were approximately ~~200~~ 250 hostages.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/what-do-we-now-about-hamas-hostages-2023-10-19/
Edit: ~~Wikipedia cites a slightly higher number~~
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_prisoner_exchange
Edit 2: my mistake, they corroborate their numbers (250)
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According to who?
The IDF?
Why would anyone be listening to them at this point? They lie constantly about damn near everything...
No. Let's listen to Hamas and Qatar funded AlJazeera. They totally never lie to suit their own needs.
Well, OP linked a CNN article. And CNN says there aren't 40 noncombatant hostages...
So, no....
We don't have to just listen to Hamas or Israel.
Because Israel hasn't been able to kill every international journalist that investigated their genocide. They've killed a shit ton, but not all of them.
Demand was 40 hostages, but primarily non-combatant. Then fill the rest with the rest.
At least your honest about what kind of "negotiations" these are.
Israel made a demand that couldnt be followed, so they can say Hamas won't agree to cease fire.
You are really stretching logic here in order to justify your hate towards Israel or approval towards Hamas. Hamas kidnaps 100s of people, Israel wants 40 back and you say they are making unreasonable demands that can't be followed? What should they say... naah keep em for raping and playing? Consider it a token of good faith?
I mean this is publicly verifiable information in terms of who went missing on Oct. 7th. It would be foolish to lie about it.
And we all know Israel never makes foolish lies.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/09/middleeast/gaza-food-aid-convoy-deaths-eyewitness-intl-investigation-cmd/index.html
https://abcnews.go.com/International/world-central-kitchen-attack-on-aid-workers-gaza/story?id=108814150
https://time.com/6176045/israel-response-shireen-abu-akleh-killing/
I mean IDF has been dishonest certainly but this is something that has been thoroughly examined and vetted by this point. We would know if there were doubts about the number.
These events are also different because they are singular points in time—the lies serve to diffuse criticism until the public attention has faded so that less invested members of the public never learn the truth. So I’m not sure I agree they are foolish unfortunately, though there is of course a long term risk with using this tactic too often.
The hostage count is an ongoing thing. If they continued to stand by numbers that people are commonly discussing and have learned are incorrect, it would be much more embarrassing for them than the above incidents which are mostly forgotten by the general public, excepting perhaps the most recent one which did seem to break through a bit more.
The criteria are for women and the elderly to be released. The majority of the remaining hostages are men of military age (as Israel has mandatory conscription, they are military personnel by definition).
So what happened to the old women and children? Sold into slavery? Dead?
Probably dead or unknown. Terror organizations aren't usually known for their record keeping.
And even when they try their best, it’s hard when a larger terrorist organization is actively trying to genocide them and bomb everything they know to rubble.
Or blown up from the constant indiscriminate bombings of Israel. Thats also a possibility
However then umber of dead they provide is constantly quoted.
They are probably still there, check hospitals, community centres, school, emergency camps... you will probably find their corpses under all the rubble from Israeli fired American and British missiles.