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The Deprogram Podcast

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (25 children)

I don’t think Mao meant that communists should become capitalists… he meant it makes sense to align with nationalist bourgeoisie to fight off a common enemy, like international and imperialist capital.

I wholeheartedly disagree that the best way to run anything under this system to be a private company. Unless “the best way” means the most profitable. Sure exploiting the labor of others is always gonna be more profitable. Even if you pay your workers well and give them nice benefits. But you’re still exploiting them, for profit.

I don’t understand how you can’t see how antithetical to what being a communist is. Unless you accept JT is just selling the product of communism and anti-capitalism, that he is just the expression of capitalism commodifying everything including the fight and resistance against itself… and like it? I don’t understand how this is fine and acceptable.

Shouldn’t we hold ourselves to higher standards..? It’s a thing being born into privilege and using that to help the communist cause. It’s another to climb the ladders of capitalist exploitation using the mantle of revolutionary thought.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (5 children)

If he's managing to provide a living for 4 people and those people are in a situation where they don't feel exploited, I don't really see how what he's doing is why different than say Pravda pre-revolution, or any number of other communist newspapers/periodicals over the years that until the revolution had to support their workers through wages and sales of a product.

I mean, Marx was only able to write Capital because Engles had money from profiting off the labor of others. How is this any worse than that?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

he's managing to provide a living for 4 people

Quit being a lib. Those 5 people are providing the living. If he is extracting profits from them then they are exploited. Full stop.

I support secondthought i can also understand why its not perfect. This is the critical support.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Those people are providing a living for themselves, all I'm saying is that working with someone on a project where they're very involved and you're all passionate about it and you don't have to balance that with another full time job is nice.

Until the workers come out and say that they feel that JT is exploiting them or using them this whole relationship seems to be fine compared to the alternative of working for a company that directly seeks to exploit you to the maximum extent.

I'm sure cooperative ownership isn't out of the question for this project, but there isn't really much money in communist propaganda so it's amazing that they're able to support 4 salaries doing it.

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