THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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When you know there will be no consequences, it's easier to be blatant with your corruption. The officer should be fired, arrested for falsifying official documents, and the chief of police should be fired.
*racism FTFY
Theres one way to fire a cop, and you gotta do it yourself.
If it helps; they're really bad at solving these things.
They're good at solving them, just find a non white person a male it work.
They're actually really bad at it. Over 70% of murder cases in California, and over 50% of the murder cases in the US go unsolved, and that's including the ones they pinned on some random black/brown guy.
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/29/1172775448/people-murder-unsolved-killings-record-high
https://www.ppic.org/blog/a-large-proportion-of-crime-goes-unsolved-in-california/
What are the demographics of the victims in the unsolved cases tho?
Approximately 0% of the victims of unsolved murders are cops, I assume.
Police are a gang. You kill one, they will make sure to find you because they need revenge.
No clue, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that there's a disproportionate percentage of non-white unsolved cases
Damn. I always assumed anyone with a bachelor's degree could get away with murder. It seems anyone that can read Green Eggs and Ham can get away with murder.
Does no one else find it odd that some Boy Scout badges take more experience than a police badge does?
Most of them I think.
Or they did, before the boy scouts org was held accountable for all the kids they raped. So another way they're better than cops.
As a Life Scout that went to the national Jamboree more than once, I was shocked by those stories. I guess I lucked out and had scout masters that I thought were boring, but they were actually some of the good ones.
I thought they were boring because they followed all the rules all the time. I was a stupid kid.
It's not a kind world for children. We all have either stories like that, or stories like the ones that shocked you. Sometimes both.
We like our cops to be dumb. Less of a chance for them to realize how shitty they are.
The stupid also won't know that they're participating in the wrong side of the class war.
And they should also have to buy Riley a new bottle of cognac. The good stuff, too
How you pour out the cognac and then call it shit vodka?
It's like that graphic of how cops see things and everything is a gun, but it's how cops see liquor and everything is vodka