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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I thought it was pretty well established that Twitch was like a softcore OnlyFans that caters to lonely gamers seeking parasocial relationships, but that's just my impression as someone who doesn't pay attention or care about this stuff. The few times I've looked at it the sexualized content was obvious and unavoidable.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

How? I'm on twitch basically every day watching my friends stream. I follow a hand full of others and never has it been "obvious" that twitch is softcover OnlyFans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

That's good to hear, I don't use it. As I said, I've only checked it out a few times and that was not recent. My impression of it is apparently outdated, or doesn't reflect a common experience. The times I looked at it there were half naked women in bathtubs and shit like that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

There's a handful of prominent streamers pushing the softcore meta hard but as a whole I agree with you. The people complaining about the children need to understand it's a private company and they can do whatever they want, if parents don't want their kids seeing that stuff then they should moderate them better instead of trying to push the responsibility of raising their kids onto others.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

need to understand it's a private company and they can do whatever they want,

That's the crux of it.

It's their platform and they can make the rules for what they want (and don't want) on their platform.

If they want it to be a porn-free gaming platform, that's their right.

If they say "you want porn, go to a porn platform", that's their right.

The reasons for those decisions could be many things, and probably are a combination of things. It doesn't have to be "they're just a bunch of nanny state prudes"...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yep 100 percent agree.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

I'm an adult and I don't want to see softcore anything on twitch. That's not what I use twitch for. As for the, you should just watch your kids better argument. Sexualization of anything to children is traumatizing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The people complaining about the children need to understand it’s a private company and they can do whatever they want

I hate this response. It is so canned, so dismissive and hand wavy, while also being completely incorrect. It’s the kind of useless argument the right likes to parade around when they want to justify a business being cruel or even acting illegally in some cases.

No, companies cannot do literally whatever they want. There are absolutely rules that govern the types of media that can be in certain spaces. There are different TOS’s for different kinds of access to content, different hurdle
and benchmarks that must be met for certain users to access certain content. Twitch cannot do whatever it wants with impunity.

I think there are a lot of valid arguments on both sides of this debate here, and I am also very much against “think of the children.” But no, again, twitch cannot do whatever it wants here. There are different laws in different countries that they have to consider.

Edit: let’s also not forget that I am within my rights to express my disdain for what a company does, regardless if they have the right to do it or not. And to imply it is somehow immoral or otherwise reflective of our (lack of) intelligence to critique a company is patently absurd.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

When I say they can do whatever they want, I mean it in the 'they literally could just follow all those rules and regulations to just allow porn on there if they wanted to' sense. There's nothing stopping them from doing it besides money and the fact they're allowing what they currently do means money is winning.

There's nothing cruel or illegal on what's currently going on with twitch but I get what you're trying to say. I'm just tired of people forcing their views on me because of their kids. Mind you, I don't hate kids.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Why do you reduce it to “forcing their view on you because of their kids”? What’s this based on? How is your advocating for the opposite not you forcing your views on others by your definition? Why is your bar for what is appropriate more correct than anybody else’s?