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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

My favorite was when my new Windows 11 laptop started automatically backing up my files to OneDrive without telling me, then STOPPED LETTING ME SEND AND RECEIVE EMAILS because my OneDrive was full. Full of stuff that I never wanted to back up.

So one of my main email accounts, which I've used within the free tier limits for 20ish years, suddenly went dark because I signed into Windows.

Of course while investigating, the UI offered helpful options like:

  • Pay for more cloud storage

(Not depicted: "Free up some space," "Disable backups")

Epilogue: After several rounds of disabling backups, then deleting the stuff in OneDrive, then Windows deciding that I couldn't have wanted that and backing all my stuff up again anyway, I finally fixed it by deleting some key directories so the backup would just fail.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

i had the same shit with google drive recently, legitimately had to CTRL A and delete everything. It should genuinely be criminal to not have "delete all button" Though to be fair, i think it kind of did tangentially a little bit? It was hidden behind like three menus, and didn't properly update, and i still dont think i have everything deleted from there, i have no idea what google is doing honestly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You can fix it by never logging on with an email address.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You can also fix windows by installing a real operating system.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Don't cut yourself on that edge brah

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is not a helpful recommendation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Indeed. Helpful would be, "try Mint bc that is likely to be the easiest for Windows faniliar users to assimilate to, all it costs is your soul."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thing is, installing win11 without linking a Microsoft account is still a rather large pain in the ass. 1000% worth it minf you, but they really don't want you to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I just did it this morning, when you burn the ISO to a usb drive using Rufus you get a nice little menu that allows you to pre-set a local account, disable the TPM check and more.

The biggest pain is downloading the windows 11 iso in the first place. You can only do that when the site believes you're not already using windows.

Bypassing the online check on setup is basically required on new hardware anyways, since most 2.5g/wifi6+ networking drivers aren't included in the installer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

this is a feature of rufus, not of windows, while it's really cool, go rep rufus, not windows. Especially for the linux users who don't use windows and have to suffer through what is sometimes arbitrarily confusing. I will say, there is a script out there that works great for flashing windows isos under linux. Uses a grub intermediary layer to ensure consistent behavior i think? Idk, i used it once.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am repping Rufus here, not windows. Painful as it may sound, truth is that most people creating windows usbs would do so from windows.

The tool you're talking about might be Ventoy. Which is indeed a great way to make any type of bootable usb stick. Once installed you can just throw all sorts of isos (and more) to your usb drive and it'll generate nice grub menu to pick from.

You'll just have to use the classic oobe\bypassnro method instead to install windows. (The fact that you have to use a workaround to create a local account at all is still BS, there's no denying that.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

i get it. It just pisses me off to no end when people bring up genuine issues and people go "oh but you can just unplug the fuckin ethernet" yeah and why do we need to fucking unplug it again?

I mean yeah i could just not install a shitty piece of software like windows, given my linux user nature, i should do that, but here i am trying to be reasonable, and people keep yelling at me, because apparently i dont know that "well uhm ackshually"

like the guy who responded to my comment with "well just use a fake email if you REALLY have to" like yeah, that's cool, im sure there are other ways of doing that too. That was not the point of my comment though.

Ventoy is pretty cool, not what i was talking about though, woeusb iirc, really slick little script. Used it for a win 7 iso ages ago.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

People having to work with Microsoft stuff (not just windows) have gotten so used to needing to find workarounds for everything that those genuine issues have become the baseline expectation.

Only having to fill in a wrong email/password a few times sounds like peak user experience compared to the shit I have to pull in Azure/Power BI/AD at times. My genuine first reaction when reading that post was "ah of course, that makes sense".

Personally I use Linux for server/container stuff wherever possible. With the occasional excursion into Manjaro to see what's happening on the desktop side.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you're in a situation where you absolutely must use Windows, at the out-of-box screen ,Enter a fake email address and a fake password a few times, and once it fails to sign in it will give you the option of creating a local account. Sneaky, deceitful, and underhanded, sure, but at least it's still possible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i've already commented this, but just to get my point across properly here, it's these kinds of comments that bother me. They reek of "too occupied with whether we could do it, rather than whether we should do it."

It's a neat trick, but completely fucking ignores the problem. It's like a car shipping from the factory with a bunged transmission but everyone going "well you can just not use first gear" or "well, doing a swap is easy" and my favorite "just re-gear it with third party parts, these ones don't explode" Like, yeah, you could. Nobody would be buying that car though. For some reason tech nerds have a masochistic relationship to this shit and i dont understand why.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I don't use Windows. I remember this from tech support days though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Delete some key directories

My grandfather is in need of a new computer, im not gonna try to Linux pill him, which leaves me with a windows 10 machine that will be EOL this year, and just hope nothing breaks with time. I think he would stop using technology if he saw the constant nags and popups in 11.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

If all he needs is a browser, get him a Chromebook. Sure it's Google, which is arguably as bad as Microsoft, but you're getting a simple machine which is hard to break, and Google is doing the tech support rather than you.

Or, if you don't want to waste perfectly good hardware, install ChromeOS Flex on the existing machine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Older folks normally do just fine if you set up some desktop shortcuts and bookmarks. He's likely gone through a few Windows versions and figured it out, after all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

This is lemmy and I live in a country which gives 0 fucks about copyright, so allow me to speak very freely

PIRACY PIRACY PIRACY!

PIRATE a copy of Windows 10 LTSC and let Microsoft choke on your cock and balls!

DMCA My Ass M$IT lawyers

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I dunno, Linux Mint Cinnamon is pretty dang close to the standard Windows 7 experience. He'll have an adjustment period of about 2 weeks running into minor differences and then not have any issues.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Oh I am sure of that, thats how I got into Linux :p

But now convince a 70 year old man that the one thing he has been consistently using for almost a decade and a half is in need of a change.

But really I may push him on it again, I've assured him he can get to his excel documents and all that but it doesnt seem like enough and is now irate with the ads in solitare

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But now convince a 70 year old man that the one thing he has been consistently using for almost a decade and a half is in need of a change.

You mean like installing Windows 11 when he's used to Windows 10 or even older? 😁

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

He's on 10 now, with some gripes that I likely could regedit, it really depends how harsh w10 EOL goes and how hard they try to fill some landfills

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can you get away with just installing it and telling him it's the new windows?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You know, if there's a real nice solitare applet just maybe

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

You have a choice. Kpatience is pretty good.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Worked with my 76 year old dad. He happily does all of his stuff on Manjaro. Vivaldi looks like on Windows. And Kodi is even better than the satellite TV crap he had on Windows.