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Yeah, but Session sucks. What about that?
Matrix is better than both of them.
This. I don’t get why it’s so praised. I feel like all main clients are just spyware with how much data they retrieve
Telegram does not collect metadata... 🤦
You can run your own matrix server. Metadata is meaningless if you use a different account for each identity along with VPN's.
If you communicate with someone on another server, wouldn't your data and metadata be exposed to that server too?
Yes, the other server can see who you are talking to, but you can encrypt the conversation so they cannot see the content.
The metadata of conversations is just as important as the metadata of money. The CIA director said "we kill people off metadata"
Also this conversation was about censorship, not just pure privacy. Matrix is federated, just like SimpleX. Meaning it uses government domains. So one could not trade Monero on either of these platforms against the will of sanctions with any meaningful size.
Can you do a small amount and different burners? Sure. But then how's the customer gonna verify its you and find you? PGP signatures over Matrix DMS? c'mon man, we're talking about freedom here.
Yes, if you are using the same account to talk to your grandma as to buy and sell 10K XMR then you may have a problem, but you would most likely be OK anyway.
I would like to see Matrix over Tor or I2P this would solve any DMS issues.
I'm asking you to consider this technology beyond just evasion. It's a distribution system for content.
Matrix is tied to one server. Federation is physical locations. Yeah you can hide those locations with Tor or I2P, but ultimately if that location is found its game over. With a blockchain based and node based system, its full blown crypto anarchy. You can establish a reputation that can't be taken away.
The same way we value XMR for it's self-custody of money, as opposed to btc lightning that ties it to a liquidity server. That same logic, is now why self-custody of communication is greater than "federated liquidity hiding"
I see what you are saying. Once we have the usability and feature set of matrix with a blockchain based decentralized solution I am 100% in. 👍
Awesome discussion! I see better solutions on the horizon with back and forth like this here. A willingness to adopt better tech as it is developed will be critical. Monero doesn't stagnate in its development and neither should our communication and distribution platforms.
I said Matrix is better than both of them, hence talking about telegram...
I have a separate account for every identity all using different IP's, the metadata is meaningless. Matrix is the best way to chat online once you consider all pros and cons.
Matrix is #1 from a privacy, usability, and feature perspective. For you facebook is in the top 3.
Saying retarded crap like Matrix is not in the top 10, clearly it is in the top 10 and #1 at the moment.
Why does it suck?