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Out of curiosity, can you recommend anything linking ISIS and CIA/Mossad?
I always thought that made sense to me so I believe it but I don't really have anything to support that.
I mean you have Jake Sullivan telling Hillary Clinton in an email that "Al Qaeda is on our side in Syria", you have ISIS fighters getting medical treatment in "Israel" and not one ISIS attack ever targeting the Zionist entity, and oh yeah, Wikileaks who have essentially never gotten something like this wrong directly saying that the CIA created ISIS:
So arab spring was a front to replace leaders with leaders more loyal to the west? Its been ages, I don't remember what came first
Exactly. Some of the people who were involved in top level discussions years before the "Arab Spring" events kicked off have since come out and said that the plan was to topple several regimes in the Middle East that the US was looking to get rid of. I don't have the interview on hand where this was said but maybe someone else remembers and can link it. In essence what they planned was to get rid first and foremost of regimes that were left over from the cold war as former Soviet allies, all within the span of a few years. They would take out Libya and Syria and work their way up to Iran. Imo what was unsaid is that the logical conclusion of this chain points directly at Russia. I believe they always wanted to eventually take another stab at taking Russia apart with a Chechen-wars-like conflict. Anyhow, for the Arab Spring they prepared the ground with their NGOs very thoroughly. They were training color revolution operatives on how to employ social media and other destabilization methods years in advance.
Edit: here is the clip where a US general talks about the "seven countries in five years" plot. CGTN and Al Jazeera have also reported on this.
Did you mean to say ISIS or am I missing something?
No, the email from 2011 said AQ. At the time the groups that would eventually become ISIS were not yet branding themselves as such and were still just an outgrowth of Al Qaeda. But it's the same thing as if they were to say ISIS today.
Ooh, I see what you mean! Thanks for the information and clarifying!
This is very helpful.
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Also interested. I’m admittedly very ignorant and have not researched that claim at all. Good sources summarizing the arguments for CIA and ISIL links are appreciated.
All I know is the Syrians have said that ISIS commanders have been whisked away at the last moment as their forces closed in by what could only be US military helicopters among other things like the US sending aid to "moderate rebels" which always ended up in ISIS hands.
Definitive links that aren't just claims are going to be hard to come by. The western press wouldn't even air those so finding anything English speaking will likely be a challenge, just the same if anyone has anything I'd also like to see it.