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Honestly, Telegram sucks. Use Signal for private communications and Matrix for groups/communities.
Why Signal is a bad idea
This is BS, half of it is pure speculation, the other half consists of conspiracy theories.
Matrix is good for personal communications too The us companies made you to use phone numbers for chatting Id's are convenient
I mean, sure, you can use Matrix for personal chats. It's perfectly secure, but it's not as easy to use as Signal. For example, if I told my grandma to install Element and send me her Matrix ID, she would be really confused. Signal is very easy to use, and the user experience is basically the same as on mainstream platforms like WhatsApp. I also don't think that the phone number requirement is a US thing, as Telegram also has it. Signal only requires phone numbers to prevent spam, but they recently introduced usernames, so you don't have to give people your phone number in order for them to message you.
Element is just a piece of shit. Matrix is fine for almost all use cases. If you actually need metadata protection use Session.
The old version of Element ain't great, but it is currently being replaced with a complete new, rewritten app called Element X. Check it out, it's really awesome. Session isn't good at protecting metadata, as it removes important parts of the Signal protocol, in order to work on a decentralized network. Just using Signal is probably the best solution for private communications.
Yes.
My server doesn't support sliding sync.
That's unfortunate
Telegram is great for nothing related to privacy.
It's the best app when it comes to functionality. It has it all.
Can you name a feature that other apps are missing?
I could go on.
Ok, I see. Telegram tries to combine Discord, WhatsApp and WeChat, but it isn't a great replacement for either of them.
Discord has groups, chanels, threaded conversations, allows you to mute people, great support for bots, folders, etc. Signal is much better for private chats though, it has a very secure encryption protocol and enables E2EE by default and is very focused on privacy in general. Btw Signal also allows scheduling messages. I tried Telegram for both groups/chanels and private chats and I found it really annoying to have my groups and channels in the same app as my normal conversations. Just use Signal and Discord/Matrix/Revolt.
I get it. That's why I use Plus messenger. It's a better, more customisable UI. Private chats, groups and channels are on a different page, if you want it.
Unfortunately I use Discord, WhatsApp, Signal, Element (Matrix) and SimpleX all combined because my contacts are spread out. Looking forward to secure interoperability.
Plus Messenger looks proprietary. You might be interested in Beeper once it's released, it let's you use all your messaging platforms in one app. And it's supposed to be secure and open-source.
I'm on the waiting list. I hope they get e2ee sorted out.
Also Telegram Mini Apps.
We don't need a RuSSian version of WeChat.
Yes like make it American is so much better. You are just racist.
No I think you are just stupid. I'm not even American lol. What does this have to do with racism? I don't care about the nationality or ethnicity of the developers, but about the country from which the company operates or has ties to.
I say the same of all who operate in American soil. You are stupid.
Telegram has Russian developers, but I would expect that it ~~sells data to everyone~~ complies to some other jurisdiction
The company is based in the UAE, not a great country either
It's not great if security is your main goal for organizing, but it has a better user experience than most chat apps. Especially if cross platform chatting is important to you.
I don't understand why people like it so much, I tried it and found the experience pretty bad. Signal is a million times better and easier to use, and Matrix isn't that hard to figure out either.
Telegram is miles better in user experience than Signal.
Hell no
I'll accept your opinion, regardless of how bad it is.
I started using it about 8-9 years ago at this point, back when the options were FB messenger or whatsapp. Both were trash and limited in comparison.
I only use signal for work but I find the app clunky and unintuitive. Telegram, being a somewhat privacy nightmare, but not connected to a big data broker company, also gives me the ability to search through a decade of messages to find an old joke, a picture shared, etc.
Telegram is simple enough that I can tell my aging gen x parents and apathetic zoomer siblings to install it and there's nearly zero friction to them logging in and receiving messages. It solved the problem of being added to a new fucked up imessage groupchat every other week as an android user.