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This meme I think is the perfect encapsulation of the liberal mentality. The election is treated as a moral choice in a context free and timeless vacuum. There is no understanding of the laws of motion of history, or the logic that drives the American government, neither of which can be affected by an election.

There is the belief that you can delay fascism by voting for the liberal party, without understanding that it is the failures of the liberal party in the first place that breeds fascism.

Reading the comments on the original post, the closest thing to a long-term strategy I saw was to make progressive (by liberal standards) ideas more popular and to vote more tactically in the next elections. Even when I was a liberal, I knew this was a dogshit strategy because it is vulnerable to the Republican strategy of fucking with the legal system and acquiring power regardless of how people vote.

I cannot understand how liberals, after being being told constantly by their own media sources that republicans have made a science out of undermining American elections, believe that the counter to Republicans is ... more effort on elections.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"But Trump would have done the same thing!!"

What's funny is that these are the same people who will yell at you in a panic that "Trump wants to destroy NATO!"...

Me i'm pretty convinced that he actually would do nothing more than try to milk some more money out of the US's NATO vassals, but by their own "harm reduction" argument if they are convinced that Trump would pull the US out of NATO that is actually a reason to vote Trump. Yes he would still be a Zionist running dog, but at least he would have crippled one arm of US imperialism.

Mind you i don't actually believe that this argument is correct (in reality Trump is a cynical opportunist who says "populist" things but ends up being just another imperialist, albeit a cheap and stupid one; and even if he was sincere there are massive systemic barriers in the US state apparatus built up to prevent a "rogue president" from undermining the imperialist project), but it is the logical conclusion of the world view that these liberals profess.

In the end the conclusion remains the same: liberalism enables and breeds fascism.