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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The comment threads here are weird. Who, in their right mind, would ever support a country like Russia? It's mind blowing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tankies claim to not be supporting Russia but only point out issues with Ukraine and believe every bit of info that comes out of Russia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hexbear never criticizes Russia except for all the times we criticize Russia https://hexbear.net/post/278334

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Imagine being proud of a t34. Oof

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Your username is literally stuka. Also, remember when Germany had their asses destroyed by the red army? That was funny.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haha, you think I'm gonna defend nazis? Nah, they were worse than the soviets, but not by much. You tankied are about equivalent to neo nazis in my book

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You named yourself after a Nazi dive bomber.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would anyone do that? Wokeness is rad and cool, while tankies love to do fascist apologia, which is highly unwoke

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh look, calling communists fascists

hitler-detector

Surely people who do that aren't supportive of double genocide theory, which Jewish holocaust scholars condemn as carrying water for nazism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every time I criticize tankies they:

  1. Lie about what I said
  2. Pretend I'm talking about all communists. If I wanted to do so, I would use the term "communists". But I don't see a reason to attack the group I myself belong to
  3. Try to "no U" with irrelevant insinuations
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh, which successful communists are you talking about?

Also, double genocide theory being holocaust trivialization still applies as it refers to calling the USSR fascist, if you think it is an irrelevant insuniation take it up with the Jewish holocaust scholars.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As I said to the person below, learn reading comprehension or fuck off. I don't want to engage in a conversation when I'm repeatedly being gaslit on what I said.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which successful communists aren't you insulting by comparing to fascists, which again, carries water for fascists

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's impossible to insult successful communists, as there are none. Unless you lower your bar enough to ignore glaring issues like ethnic cleansing of "unloyal" peoples and recreation of the capitalist mode of production.

I'm not interested in the "no U" back-and-forth. If you want to defend online tankie community producing prominent fascists, then do so without deflecting. If you don't, then stop acting indignant

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're literally just carrying water for fascists, according to Jewish experts on the holocaust.

https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't mention Holocaust anywhere you paranoid fuck. Stop deflecting. If you link the double genocide thing once more I will assume you're just here to defend the resettlements. Which kinda proves my point.

Do you have anything to say about the prominent online fascists or fascist Russia apologists coming from the tankie community, some still publicly identifying as tankies?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You literally called some communists fascists. You're equating them with people who did the holocaust. Which is problematic.

https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck you you fascist piece of shit. I'm not entertaining your deflections no more.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I literally lost ancestors to the holocaust. Stop carrying water for fascists by equating the people who ended the holocaust to them. You're doing work to trivialize the holocaust, according to literally every prominent Jewish historian who studied the holocaust and has spoken about double genocide theory. This is literally a mainstream position outside of communist circles.

Either learn to prioritize not giving the nazis ammo over your desire to be a mini-mcCarthy or learn what the actual differences between communism and fascism are instead of relying on propaganda that benefits the nazis.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck off you gaslighting fascist pig, losing ancestors to Holocaust doesn't prevent you from being a fascist POS which you proved enough to me already. I have zero respect for you as you keep lying about my words without a pause and kept deflecting criticisms of fascist behavior and ethnic cleansings by deceptively framing my position as something it is not. Which is the same egregious thing fascist supporters of Israeli apartheid are known for. Fuck off and go deport Kalmyks or whatever your favourite hobby is

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am not lying about your words. I am telling you that equating communists and fascists (which you have repeatedly done) is incorrect, and holocaust trivialization, according to mainstream liberal historians, which you could literally look up right now instead of continuing to show your own ass and be incredibly offensive to a communist organizer who lost family to the fucking holocaust.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is double genocide theory in the room with us now? Why do you keep bringing this irrelevant shit up? How do some fucks equivocating USSR and Nazi Germany relate to the repackaged Russian fascist propaganda I see coming daily from the tankie community? How does it justify the defense of ethnic cleansing you've engaged in this conversation? A whole bunch of people sharing community with you came out of woodwork to lie about me the moment I mention the really bad fucking things I see daily among people like you. You all lie, you reframe my words into something entirely different, you keep bringing stuff from time periods completely unrelated to the fucked up shit I see in front of me. My original message had nothing to do with neither USSR nor Nazi Germany, it's you who decided to push the conversation towards "successful communists" and the DGT. I see the same fascist tactics of deflection as I'd see from Nazis or Israel apartheid supporters. "Oh, you've criticized our fascist behavior? But we've suffered greatly from Nazis, so it's you who's the real fascist actually". Your offense should be directed towards yourself internalizing fascist tactics and not me calling you out on them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is double genocide theory in the room with us now?

Yes, you repeatedly are equating communists with fascists which is the main rhetoric it uses to advance holocaust trivialization, you ass.

How does it justify the defense of ethnic cleansing you've engaged in this conversation?

Didn't you just accuse me of gaslighting?

Lmao.

repackaged Russian fascist propaganda I see coming daily from the tankie community?

You need to open a history book specialized in how fascist systems exist and operate. Russia is literally just a belligerent bourgeois democracy. Putin is beholden to the oligarchs, a word for capitalists with an orientalist connotation. There is not the transition from primarily extracting increases of productivity from abstract surplus labor value to concrete labor value which marks fascism economically.

What "tankie community" lol? There isn't a unified one. Do you mean us, who generally oppose the war and want a negotiated peace so Ukraine stops losing the war so expensively (in blood of conscripts)?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not supporting Russia to be critical of one-sided narratives or to call for peace for the sake of minimizing loss of life.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ohh won't someone think of the poor invading war criminals!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ukrainians are dying too, including ones drafted against their will. Maybe you should fight in their place before asking them to die on your behalf.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Russia is welcome to GTFO at any time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The war was already going on before Russia sent troops in.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A compromise now is bad for russia, russia basically has to be able to extort Western Europe to not to be crippled for decades. Germany is apparently working to that end now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's so fucking funny when the geopolitics understanders who have been drip-fed NATO propaganda state the clear opposite of reality and think they made an insightful comment.

Russia has all but won the military conflict, as has been made clear by this utter failure of a "counteroffensive." Russia is doing better economically than before the SMO, despite the supposed economic wunderwaffen sanctions that only backfired and hurt NATO countries. Russia has only gained support by most of the rest of the world and has showed the global south that the US/NATO are indeed paper tigers. Russia has all the leverage now. So yes, for Russia to compromise right now would be bad for them because they don't need to compromise, they can keep going as they have been and eventually have their demands met, or Ukraine/NATO can recognize they've lost and make a bid for peace by acquiescing to Russia's demands before more lives are needlessly lost.

Ukraine on the other hand will be crippled for decades regardless of how things pan out. Ukraine is now deeply indebted to Western countries, has already had all national assets sold off, has had a major chunk of its working-age population killed or maimed, and is beholden to a fascist, nazi-worshipping government.

As for Germany, yeah they have been working to the end of hobbling themselves for decades too by allowing their remaining industrial capacity to be completely gutted, kowtowing to their US masters that bombed their infrastructure to prevent them ever again getting oil from 'The Bad Country,' they have irreparably removed nuclear power as an option even as they're facing an impending energy crisis (in large part because of aforementioned no-oil-from-bad-country), and are right now also sliding towards right wing populism.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Get out of your bubble. The majority of the world supports Russia. It's an uncommon view in Europe/USA, but common everywhere else.

Also, being anti NATO expansion doesn't mean you support Russia. That is a reductive world view.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Regardless of how many despots find Putin's approach appealing, it remains fundamentally wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who said anything about despots? These are opinions of people, not rulers. Citizens of Africa, Asia, South America have suffered under US hegemony, so they view the Russian State different than you do.

The world isn't as simple as Russia bad, US good.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

O rly? Because I thought things were simple. I, like everyone who isn't already fully on team hexbear, am an idiot. Please cite your sources.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I, like everyone who isn't already fully on team hexbear, am an idiot

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Please cite your sources.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What a surprise, a childish dipshit.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All you're doing is insulting people. This behavior is why PIGPOOPBALLS is a necessity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

PPB aka juicy thread located

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