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It's kind of hard to take their criticism seriously when western sites and apps like the BBC or Instagram are blocked in China.
The core problem is that the reason of removal is not based on fact, but just plain racism. They're not even trying to hide it either. If you've been paying attention to the intelligence community, they've been trying to drum up a justification for a war with China for awhile now.
It is possible to be a hypocrite and right though. You're also missing some nuance however as the bill would force the sale of TikTok while China doesn't force the sale of Instagram, it just blocks it.
It's possible to be a hypocrite and wrong, too.
So because being a hypocrite makes one neither right or wrong it is irrelevant in the condemnation of one's point no?
Obviously not.
If we're this far in and you think it's obvious idk why you even respond to people. Might as well respond with "no u" or not at all.
What's obvious is that you have an axe to grind that goes beyond what I've been talking about.
Don't worry, I won't be responding to you anymore.
That still doesn't explain the "obviously not" and only shows you dislike to discuss anything and only want people to agree with you.
You might be having a rough day or maybe something is bothering you and I genuinely hope everything works out for you. It's just really hard to have genuine conversations with you if you refuse to elaborate and instead expect others to read your thoughts.
OK, one more response.
"Obviously not" refers to your question about whether being a hypocrite is irrelevant. It's obviously not irrelevant. You know this; the question wasn't even sincere. You're just being antagonistic for antagonism's sake. Hence your faux concern about whether I'm having a bad day, etc. You're not even trying to have a discussion; you're looking for a fight.
It was actual genuine concern and a desire for your day to be better. I'm sorry that you distrust empathy.
Well the question isn't about taking China seriously, but admitting that China was right in the first place. US's argument is that China can spread disinformation on Tik Tok, which is exactly what China was saying about Facebook etc... So, China, which doesn't have freedom of speech banned those sites for promoting foreign interests. US is now trying to do exactly the same to Tik Tok.
IF you accept USA's argument here, then you implicitly accept China's argument since they're the same argument. So, again, it doesn't matter what China says, what matters is what you just said:
So there by admitting, China was right, countries SHOULD block foreign influence.
*Edit: Man the timing of this article
https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/politics/exclusive-trump-launched-cia-covert-influence-operation-against-china/ar-BB1jSnFz
Like I said, China seems to be right here.
Just to be clear then, you're opposed to this bill passing?
OK but again to be clear, you're opposed to the bill?
China bad for blocking insta. USA good for blocking Tiktok. Its consistent when you are a dog for the state department
Also consistent when you remember tit for tat bans are bloody common in the world.
And sorta the point of modern caparilistic politics.
You stop our nations companies selling to your citizens and we will do the same here. Lets face it. If any gov refuses to do so. Its rather disrespectful to their companies.
The fact that each nation uses the spying excuse. When China is as likely doing it for control of its citizens and profit restriction. Just like the US.
Lets face it. No 9ne sane thinks these types of apps are not spying. Just weather the respective governments have access to the data. And let's face it. If you think either dose not. Beach front property in land locked areas for sale etc.
It really just points them all as hypocrits.
PS not American. But my nation is no better. And I am in no way saying any nation is atm. Or at least any nation with any power on the world stage.
china block some social media and just use their own apps