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But if you must have it spelled out, here it is: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/sec70e68c949/web
Now you are just making things up. Apple explicitly write in their documentation, that this is not the case. So again, you suggest they are lying without any proof.
I see, you don't understand the nature of mass surveillance and surveillance capitalism. It's not really about individuals reading specific conversations..
It is a case that doesn't fall into "end to end" definition by default because in group chats there are more than 2 ends. Any implementation of group chat like that would be structurally nonstandard.
Thanks.
Just google "can't leave group chat" or something.
It is exactly about that, otherwise I don't see why would anyone care. Having grown up under a police state regime I live under assumption that the surveillance is everywhere anyway. Don't mind feeding surveillance capitalists with my messages, knowing how many options I have to make them choke. I know that if someone wants to cause me any problems, neither Telegram nor Signal would prevent that.