Why are we still talking about this? Who cares? Let people use whatever washrooms they want, is it even an issue? it's completely fabricated by the right at this point and im tired of it.
this post was submitted on 21 Feb 2024
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Personally I think any sport which has rankings / championships should be separated by biological sex rather than gender.
Allow anyone to join "XY" teams but only allow female-at-birth to join "XX" teams. Unless it's a just-for-fun league then anyone can join.
It does get complicated though with intersex and whatnot, but unfortunately life isn't fair and some people draw the short straw. They can join the "XY" leagues if they are good enough.
Couple of things. Politicians have zero idea of what they’re talking about, especially one like Pollieve who’s looking to demonize trans women to rile up his base. Calling someone a “biological male” is just their fancy way of saying “man in a dress”. It’s their way of making it seem like they’re less transphobic than they actually are.
Trans women and trans men are biologically no different from their cis counterparts. Trans women lose the muscle mass and strength they had when testosterone was their primary sex hormone. They perform no better or worse than cis women when it comes to sports. Trans women take on the same health risks as cis women; and the same can be said for trans men.
Furthermore, chromosomes don’t work the way you’re suggesting here either. They act more like blueprints during development in the womb. There are also XY cis women with androgen insensitivities, as well as cis women who produce higher levels of testosterone.
Long story short, you don’t need a degree in biology to understand the arguments being put forth by Pollieve and folks like him are absolute bunk. They’re intended to antagonize people against trans folks.
trans women and men are biologically no different than their cis counterparts.
I want to start by saying I don’t have a horse in the race, I’m not a competing athlete (anymore) and honestly believe sports should be accessible to anyone but, I have seen “reports” (who knows how accurate) of trans women wiping the floor with cis women athletes. Like the D1 swimmer. Or, Natalie Ryan(who’s a disc golfer which is my niche). Are these largely outliers?
I honestly don’t know enough about biology to know how the human body reacts to those treatments. If you’re correct, that’s awesome! While it’s more inconclusive(at least as far as I’m aware) if you’re outclassing your competitors, you should have to play with your skill level. In terms of disc golf, there’s FPO(female professional open) and MPO(mixed professional open). If you don’t really have competition at FPO, you should have to play MPO.
Now, in my example, there are more layers because disc golf is a tiny sport, Natalie Ryan wins any small tournament she’s in, but when it comes to the big ones, she’s middle of the road. So, I’m not going to say she’s the prime example of “dominating a female field” and honestly, not sure there is one. So, you’re probably onto something.
Pierre Poilivere is attempting to begin the first stage of genocide: Classification.
Guess he supports women only spaces in general? Nah, who am I kidding he would ban women only spaces if he could.
Hmm I used to be proud of being Canadian. These days it's getting harder and harder.
I was ten once too
I wonder how he would label post-op trans women. They still have a Y chromosome, and are therefore "biological males."
That's the problem with Pollievre's language.
And even pre bottom surgery trans people are vulnerable.
It feels like a given that trans people deserve to be able to use public washrooms and change rooms without fear, and I haven't seen any actual evidence they cause any issues beyond offending some closed minded people.
There are biological female spaces which it makes sense to exclude trans people from, they do have different experiences than cis women when it comes to growing up, periods, giving birth, etc. But bathrooms don't seem like one them.
I remember that headline where the story is that a bunch of cis girls in a changeroom were perving on their underage swim teammate and staring at her penis. Like literally there were lines in the article that were like "I couldn't stop staring at my teammate's dick". And then the headline on the article and the narrative framing is "trans girl makes teammates uncomfortable by using changeroom for its intended purpose. How dare she!"
That feels like one of those cases where someone should step in and separate her because that situation sounds uncomfortable for everyone… or even bringing a screen to separate her if they don’t have access to another space for her to change.
There’s not that many trans people, it feels like accommodating this would be easy.
Most boys are perfectly capable of being in the same room as a penis without losing their minds. If we're going to end segregation then we need to get everyone comfortable with being in the same room as other naked people. I say we give those pervy cis girls some mandatory sensitivity training on when it is not appropriate to look at other people's junk.
'It's definitely awkward because Lia still has male body parts and is still attracted to women,' one swimmer on the team told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview.
While Lia covers herself with a towel sometimes, there’s a decent amount of nudity, the swimmer said. She and others have had a glimpse at her private parts.
"Help, help, I'm being repressed! I stared at a teenage girl's genitals and now I'M uncomfortable!"
I'm a biological cis male and I use women's washrooms fairly frequently, why don't I get to be the target of the culture war?
Anyways, please put more baby change tables elsewhere and I won't have to do that anymore.
This. It's abhorrent that fathers have no facilities for their children's needs.
I recently went to a mall where the baby change room was separate from the washrooms, except you had to walk through the women's washroom to get to it. And the actual location meant there was no reason they couldn't have had a separate door directly out into the hall.
Well that's some seriously stupid design.
Once was in a pediatricians office 🤦
And I say that Poilievre should be buried 6 feet under, but we don't always get what we want, do we Pete?
I don't wish death on him or anyone else. That's just a one way ticket to division.
Gross. That's all I have to say.
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