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I'm relatively new to the linux space, I was introduced by the steam deck which uses kde, and it's pretty similar to windows in terms of how it works so that's the DE i'd be leaning towards when I eventually switch. I've never used gnome so i'm not sure if it'd be worth using I guess?

So I'm just looking for some input from the community, do you use Gnome or Plasma, why do you use it, and what's kind of like a pros and cons kinda thing between the two?

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Gnome. It feels better even tho it runs so much worse

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as KDE, is in fact, KDE Plasma.

Anyway, I use Gnome but if you are used to Plasma, there is no need to make things harder by using Gnome on a device and Plasma on another. Just stick to Plasma.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Gnome! I use Nixos so I prefer to use things that can be configured using its system, I like KDE but I can’t find a elegant way to configure the UI layout using nix

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Use both! You can switch between them when you log in. Find what you like.

I enjoy gnome but that isn't everyone's cup of tea.

This is the power of Linux. Not that it gives you a nice configuration (it does) but it gives you the power of choice and control over your own device.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

This. When you install a desktop environment (DE) in most Linux distros, it's just available, not forced on you. Then, as OC said, you can choose which to use each time you login.

Try them all, decide for yourself. This is the way.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Out-of-the-box GNOME, with no extensions or tweaks.

I used to be a customise-everything kind of guy. But I'm not naturally efficient, so any workflow I designed for myself would always end up being inefficient. With GNOME I see it as a kind of off-the-shelf workflow that I can adapt to, something I wouldn't have come up with myself but it makes me more efficient.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Gnome. Love how it just gets out of the way and let's me do whatever I want without interruptions.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

I use KDE. It's very powerful and flexible. While it can be windows like, you an also craft pretty much any GUI you like with it with relative ease. It can be Mac like or something unique, or even Gnome like if you really want that.

It's also intuitive and user friendly, with well made apps and a comprehensive settings menu.

I've found KDE to be reliable and stable, as well as attractive and customisable.

There are a lot of apps made for it - the only downside is software bloat if you install all of them. I'd start with the basics KDE desktop and add apps one by one rather than install the whole KDE app suite. Although the apps are usually excellent lots of the apps may not be useful to you personally . For example I don't like installing the PIM suite (email, contacts etc) as I don't use it - all that is online for me so I don't need the native apps.

I'm personally not a fan of Gnome. It's got a single rigid GUI philosophy which you can now expand with extensions but I find they can be hit and miss on whether they work or are stable, and time consuming to set up how you want.

So for gnome you either like it as is or you don't, and if you dont like it then honestly I'd say don't bother trying to make it be what you want - just use something more flexible.

But regardless of what desktop you use, Apps will work on either or any of the others available.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I tried a lot of desktop environments and I think KDE is the best one, games runs much better than GNOME while the desktop is so smart and many features... I really tried so hard GNOME but the UI sucks, it is slower running games, there are missing options very important for me that KDE has, so for me GNOME is a NO for working/gaming purposes.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

KDE Plasma Wayland, I'm using it for gaming mainly and occasionally for VR.

Pros:

  • supports DRM leasing mandatory for wired VR headsets
  • supports tearing (also in windowed apps but requires an additional setting) which reduces input latency in games
  • usually all the new fancy features, ex. HDR, appear quickly
  • decent support for fractional scaling (handy on laptops)

Cons:

  • you might encounter bugs. While Plasma 6 has been a much better experience as opposed to older versions of it, there are still some bugs here and there appearing between the updates. As of this writing thought I can't recall any bugs on my system.
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I used KDE Plasma for a long time ever since I started daily-driving Linux.

I like how KDE Plasma allows quite a surprising amount of customization. I also had some experience with Gnome via Ubuntu, and XFCE. Gnome looks polished, but doesn't allow for much customization. XFCE is a lot more customizable than Gnome, but getting it to look quite right took a lot of effort.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Does XFCE today look any less late 90s than when I tried it 10 years ago?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Can't really remember much of how it looked out of the box, since I proceeded to customize it quite heavily. However, though my memory is fuzzy, I remember it looking like a combination of Windows XP and mid 2010's Ubuntu.

Checking with the xfce website, they have this screenshot of one of their latest versions:

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Neither, XFCE.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I love GNOME and the way you just open everything in a full screen window and just switch workspaces easily.

I find it so much better than just switching windows the way I have to do on Windows 10 at work.

I might be tempted to try to have the same workflow on KDE one day as personnalisation might a bit too limited on GNOME. Does anyone know if you can do it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I had a similar workflow with maximized screens residing on different workspaces. KDE Plasma also have window rules which you can set on a per-program/application or a per-window basis (for example, main window for a program goes fullscreen into one monitor, in a workspace you specify, and the tools window opens in a different monitor in the same workspace you specify).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it something enabled by default or are you forced to go through a lot of customization to arrive to this result?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

KDE has sane defaults when it comes to windows: it opens a window at cursor position and whether or not it's fullscreen or maximized depends on what it is when you last closed the window.

So for example, if the LibreOffice Calc is maximized when I last closed it, the next time I use it, it'd be maximized.

Window rules, however, can be as fairly simple or as complicated as you want it to be.

For example, this is my settings for discord:

I set it to open horizontally and vertically maximized, on any virtual desktop in the ‘Background’ activity (not really something most KDE Plasma users make use of, but I do).

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Both KDE and GNOME are good DEs (and there are many other great ones, and you don't even need to use a DE; a mismash of applications with your compositor of choice works just aswell - but I digress), you can't really go wrong with either.

For someone new to Linux, I would likely recommend GNOME, because it is more opinionated. While KDE is a lot more configurable, that also has a huge downside: configuration fatigue. GNOME is more restrictive, yes, but that has the advantage of not overwhelming you right out of the box.

If you like and wish to tinker, though, go with KDE. If you want to gently ease into Linux, go with GNOME first, and once you're comfortable, you can still experiment with KDE. You can install both, and switch between them simply by logging out of one and into the other.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

I used KDE for about 10 years, but switched to GNOME when 3 came out and haven't looked back. It's a little unusual if you're coming from Windows, but I've found that once I let go of old paradigms like a start bar and icons and embraced multiple workspaces, that GNOME is pretty damned amazing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I use KDE as I can set it up just how I like it. I never got on with Gnome at all. The truth of it is that the only way to know if you prefer Gnome to KDE is to give it a good try out. Don't forget Cinnamon, Xfce, and Mate also!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I'm using Cinnamon, I find it better when using a customized Cinnamenu applet (instead of the default app launcher).

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Plasma on the desktop with the 40" 4K screen with lotsa windows and desktops. Gnome on the laptop, each app full-screen and swipe left-right to switch between them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you gaming on that screen, video editing, or something else? Just curious about the use case for the 40 incher. I feel like I'd be in a neck brace w/ all that real estate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

it's way less neck strain than the usual dual 24" side-by-side. this is like having 4x 20" 1080p screens in a grid but without the annoying bezels, and that's how I'm mostly using it. plus you have the option to expand a window in any direction when you need it, which you can't do in a multi-monitor setup. I arrange the windows in a 2x2 grid, or go smaller, usually 3x2 with keyboard shortcuts, by way of Better Quick Tiles for Plasma 6 (Kwin extension). tried the auto-tilers, hated 'em.

when I'm done with work, jellyfin-media-player in Fullscreen TV mode with a $5 bluetooth remote from the couch for movies and shows.

gaming sure, I run the games in 1080p and the desktop in 4k, so older games allow me to turn on FSR. had problems with Gnome Shell crashing regularly, zero crashes since I switched to Plasma.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

KDE Plasma. It makes sense to me and everything functions more or less how I prefer it to. If I need something, it's usually easy enough to find. Plasma being flexible is a plus, but I rarely need to do any modifications.

I loathe GNOME. Any time I use it it's like pulling teeth. On a touch surface I can maybe get it, but on desktop I honestly think it has some serious usability problems cooked in. And since GNOME extensions can break at any time, trying to "fix" GNOME is a losing battle. If I had to use GNOME, I'd install GNOME Classic which is ok. Or better yet, use XFCE or MATE. GNOME is highly opinionated and that's fair enough, they can do their thing and people seem to like what they offer, but boy is it not for me.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I prefer GNOME on my Microsoft Surface because I fine it much better than KDE for touchscreens. And GNOME's dynamic workspaces are amazing to use for my screen.

I prefer KDE on my desktop and laptop. Highly customizable and works great. I wish it natively had dynamic workspaces though

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

gnome since 2.x, consistent, simple and customizable

very interested in cosmic

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I use KDE Plasma on my desktop and GNOME on my laptop — though, by my experience, GNOME has been mildly annoying. I just find it too "restrictive" when compared with KDE. I'm also not super fond of how some apps seem to integrate rather poorly with GNOME. I do think that GNOME's interface works well with a laptop, but the UX hasn't been the best for me. I have few, if any, complaints regarding KDE.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

I use and love both. KDE (Bazzite) on my desktop gaming PC, and Gnome (Bluefin) on my laptop for casual stuff, mostly YouTube.

KDE is a bit better for gaming since it has HDR and VRR and is the standard DE on the Steam Deck. I tried Gnome too just a few days ago, but it felt inferior in regards of gaming and content creation.

Gnome on the other hand has a place reserved on my laptop aswell as in my heart. Especially the ultra smooth and well thought out touch gestures and minimalist UI makes it perfect for laptop usage.

For me personally, I prefer Gnome over KDE. KDE is a bit more capable, but it overwhelms me sometimes. Gnome has a better concept and workflow for me. You either love or hate it, I do the first.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I recommend GNOME from a purely security perspective. Currently, "GNOME is the only desktop that secures privileged wayland protocols like screencopy." It also has a nice permission system for (dis)allowing microphone, camera, and location access. I wish the developers were more open to encouraging customization of the certain GUI elements, like KDE. KDE Plasma does not protect against screen capture, though it is on their radar.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I don't really like Gnome as I like to tinker with everything, so I use KDE. I also have a laptop with Cinnamon, which is also pretty good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

The nice thing is, you can pretty easily run both and switch around. Just get a distro with one, and then it's usually just 1 or 2 commands to get the other as a choice on the login screen. KDE and Gnome apps are also largely compatible, regardless of desktop environment.

I've been using KDE mostly, it's just nice being able to customize it so easily without too much technical knowledge of the environment or hoping someone already made an extension for it like on Gnome. Then again, some may like the simplicity of shopping around for extensions and calling it a day, or later even editing the extensions.

Recently, for my tiny laptop I switched to gnome, it's also just pretty :)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

KDE, mostly as that is what I first used in 2000 in Mandrake. in saying that my laptop is a M2 mac with macos on it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Gnome on my work notebook, KDE Plasma on my own machines.

I like KDE Plasma better overall but Gnome was a little bit more stable for me so far. I don't mind UI differences that much, I'm not very much reliant on the GUI and can deal with pretty much any UI paradigm.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Good question, but you should definitely install both and try them out! Just in case you didn't know since you're new to Linux, you can install as many desktop environments as you want. You pick the one to use at the login screen. All your programs and files will still be there.

To answer your question: I prefer Gnome because I find it simpler and less distracting, but I've since moved to i3, then Sway, and now Hyprland.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I did not know that I could install more then one and pick that easy, that’s really good to know. I figured if I installed more than one there’d be conflicts or something but that’s really nice I’ll have to do some experimenting. Thanks for mentioning that!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You could just do a live install on a USB, and you don't even have to install to your machine to try it out. Debian has live installs available for both KDE and Gnome and should be perfectly fine for just checking out the DE (and most distros have a live option, check to see if your preferred distro does), just know that it will be slow and you won't see that in a proper installation.

Edit: just saw further down thread, Mint can do a live USB but you'll probably just want Cinnamon with that. Bazzite does not have a live boot, and from my cursory glance at possibly running both DEs it seemed to be a bit more of a headache on Bazzite than other distros. Trying Gnome on a Debian live install will at least tell you if you like Gnome.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

KDE... Mostly sane defaults out of the box and tons of customization options if there's anything you dont like.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

@[email protected] KDE is more customizable and supports more things where as Gnome tries to keep things simple and cohesive in its theme. Ex: Gnome currently has some issues with supporting things like VR but that should be fixed soon. Both work well and have the option of including a suite of useful "default" apps (with KDE pushing the bounds of default). Comes down to what you like. FWIW I use KDE.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Gnome is Snow Leopard OSX basically in attitude and experience, do NOT try to customize anything, go limp and do the experience. KDE is Windows 98, full of fun customizations, but unpolished in odd ways no matter what you do. Choose your fighter!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

KDE is Windows 98, full of fun customizations, but unpolished in odd ways no matter what you do.

Absolutely perfect. And part of why I've grown to love it.

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