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I'm relatively new to using Matrix, so far I've given Element and Fluffy Chat a try. I've preferred Fluffy Chat so far, I dunno it kinda just seems more reliable and I like the mobile app, but I was wondering if there's any others that are worth checking out. I mainly use Linux, Windows, and iOS.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

I'm using element X on Android, it's OK

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Iamb, but yes, sometimes with help from the Web client in Firefox. (old Element Android on F-Droid, because Element company hates its customers, and Element X is still not supported on One Element).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Soon hopefully my chosen XMPP client thru a gateway for spaces that require de-facto-centralized Matrix usage.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Matrix is a mossad-sponsored operation to get ahead of the curve in the technocrats pursuit of universal computer-encryption. The encryption it provides is worthless, as the current art of signals intelligence is not reliant on the content of the message but the metadata, of which Matrix has purposefully designed a system to be fully open to any technically-proficient inspector.

It's difficult to convey the subtlety of the deception here. "An open network for secure, decentralized communication." This is a true statement. It's in the surveillance community's interest to deploy a form of encrypted communication that only they are efficient at exploiting. Computer networks are complicated, and there's much that is not obvious because it's software--something invisible to all users.

Matrix is not a step in the right direction. The protocol (regardless of the state of encryption) is fundamentally flawed. Do not advocate its use. It's a stalling tactic.

Gnunet is a step in the right direction.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"the current art of signals intelligence is not reliant on the content of the message but the metadata"

Because encryption works. The contents of a message is more valuable than the metadata.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I'd say this: state's aren't looking for content. They're looking for behavior. Social-graphs and related metadata is far more revealing than reading the contents of messages. For targeted espionage by human analysts matrix has a nice function to replicate database silently to a third-party (without the user's knowledge). Though that's not really needed (end-points are wide open and vulnerable), but it's there as a core of the protocol.

Again, encryption works at obfuscating the message. Mass surveillance at a state level doesn't use the contents, but has developed other methods. The contents themselves are irrelevant. The man-power to create a surveillance regime on content makes it infeasible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Element Desktop (Flatpak) on desktop, and Element X (FDroid) on Android.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

NeoChat. Too many options out there are Electron/Flutter. If I want to use a browser, I will use a browser.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Schildichat Next

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Element on the web and Element X on Android

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

i love nheko....when it works. lately its not displaying pictures for me... but i love it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I hope Element X will get support for spaces soon. I agree that fluffy does seem to be the most capable at the moment but I don't think it has support for sliding sync.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I primarily just use element, although I have been moving away from Matrix more and more in favor of SimpleX chat, because it has better privacy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I need both threads and spaces, which limits my options. I use Element web on my PCs. On my phone, I am forced to use Schildichat because the Element app slows to a crawl after a couple days of use.