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[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

There wasn't even a DOS 5 version of Steam ☹️

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago

Ancient... ME is ancient, XP is old, 7 is almost old (you still see it here and there).

[–] [email protected] 25 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What value is there to using windows 7 nowadays. I genuinely don't understand

[–] [email protected] 12 points 15 hours ago

It's the last Windows that could look this comfy:

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago

I'm not ancient, you are ancient!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Ancient! What does that make me!?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

a Cosmic Horror

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

The ancestors. According to the new gen we are the ancestors.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Starting to see an absolute flood of those. A literal deluge!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

? still works fine on my windows 7 pc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't type on that without rubber gloves, if I were you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

And yet it is just fine for your banking institutions, and a surprising amount of government machines.

I think it is just lovely on my media PC in my living room.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 27 minutes ago

That's because those banking institutions have enterprise level support that they pay for yearly from Microsoft.

You do not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It is just lovely on any PC that doesn't connect to the internet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, you sweet summer child.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure what you mean, but I've never seen a banking or government machine that was raw-dogging the internet.
They're behind a firewall, a web filter, a content deconstructor, a hyperlink sandbox and an endpoint protection where processes need to be white-listed to run.

In such a setting, it may be safe to still run Windows 7 for some tasks, but it won't be for browsing and email.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Not sure how its done in your country, but there are very much windows 7 machines here "raw dogging" the internet. Its more about risk management then anything.

I mean we are in a world where right now the security solutions are worse then the risk of attack. Right now attacks are done mainly with social engineering and the new systems make bonzi buddy look tame.

There is little point punishing my self by changing my windows 7 machine that I like just so that I can change out old vulnerabilities with new ones. I swear software fear mongering runs half the industry right now on nothing other then inertia.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm not a fan of Win 7/8 being called "ancient"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 18 hours ago

Sytems that don't receive security patches anymore well deserve that title. You'd hardly keep it airgapped if you care about Steam updates.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

In computer time, it is pretty ancient.

"This could take like hundreds of nanoseconds... It could even take one. Whole. Second! 😱" - Enzo Matrix, Reboot

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When Win7 reached EOL we were using Linux 5.4

That's pretty ancient.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

But the kernel going 3.11 and not stopping at 3.10 was just yesterday... merely 10 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The tech industry moves fast. Win 7/8 are ancient in tech terms

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tell that to the MS Dos PCs I regularly have to maintain and provide safety to. They still live.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Something can be ancient and still function for purpose. We've uncovered ancient pottery intact.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Something that came out last week can be considered ancient in tech terms.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Windows 7 is 15 years old. If it was a person it would be able to get a learners permit to drive in many states.

It's also been EOL for over 4 years.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

We don’t call 15 year old cars ancient. Blu rays aren’t ancient. CDs aren’t ancient. Tons of things are 15 years old and fallen out of general use but aren’t considered ancient.

I’d argue that XP is ancient but not Win7.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Blu rays and CDs are considered ancient. Considering all the storage we have now, something like a CD is close to worthless for almost everyone. Blu rays could have their own niche still, but it's still considered ancient by modern standards. Technology evolves so fast, and it's hard to keep up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I call shenanigans. Blu rays still make up most of physical sales and that video quality makes up the most consumed resolution.

I can kinda see the argument for CDs but they are still sold new in big name B&M stores. “Close to worthless” is hyperbole at the very least.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Blu rays still make up most of physical sales

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KACt6YhOyY

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago

Just because they are still sold doesn't mean that they are not ancient.

You can still buy, for example, a GT 1030, which, compared to more modern graphics cards, is considered ancient.

Just because something is still being sold or bought doesn't mean that it's not ancient.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago

Cars have an expected lifespan of like 20 years, operating systems don't.

Windows 7 came out with very early support for efi boot which took explicit effort to get to work. At this point most OEM machines out there don't even support the legacy booting mode. That is ancient by tech standards.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Don't give up! Run bootleg Win10 on a VM

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

LOL, bootleg W10? Why? It's not EOL. Massgrave FTW

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

So you can play games at 1/2 the frame rate?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or just install Linux like a normal person.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

*a normal fedi person

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s time to install Nobara on those machines.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Personally, I dislike that Nobara is relying on patched Mesa and kernel versions. This is unnecessary risk of instability. AFAIK Bazzite doesn't do that.