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Kids are getting ruder, teachers say. And new research backs that up (www.cbc.ca)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

I teach university level (ages 17 and up).

Purely anecdotal, but I can confirm that I see instances of everything mentioned in this article on a weekly (sometimes daily) basis.

Students are more flippant and belligerent. They will go over your head and around your back to get excused for work. When they make a mistake, they find a way to blame it on the teacher.

I started teaching in 2006 and it was not like this. Blaming COVID and technology is easy. Blaming parents is easy. But, top-down decisions are another thing to look at. People who are no longer teaching are making teaching decisions in some instances, and disciplinary measures have been weakened. Students lawyer up in a heartbeat so we walk on eggshells.

Example: student cheats, uses ChatGPT or plagiarised something? I cannot say they cheated. That's slander or libel. I have to get the documentalist to confirm and then the head of the programme will speak with the student. If the student admits, they get a mulligan, otherwise the student can appeal and that is a can if worms I don't want to lear about.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I wonder if this is mostly a hangover from COVID. My parents are teachers, and they say after the 2 month summer break the kids backslide and most classes aren't back to normal until almost Christmas. This survey is from 2022 when schools still weren't even completely back to pre-COVID routines.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Kids emulate adults...

Blaming them is pathetic lol

But calling out shiti parenting is no no spot within our society

With that said shiti parenting is largely result of poor social economic conditions. Even if you want to be a good parent it is very hard to do unless you got economic means AND time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Kids emulate adults…

I would generalize that more to, "People operate and react to the system they're in." For kids, a huge part of that is their parents, but there are other factors involved like social media, and the wider society.

So many people want the simple answer, so they say it's "personal responsibility" and nothing else. We need to create/adjust our systems to generate the outcomes we want. As you point out, socioeconomics play a huge part so we not only need to relieve those burdens, but also provide specific supports in schools and the wider communities.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, exactly. We've been running on "personal responsibility" as the core ethic of society for 50 years now, and, uh... I mean, it hasn't worked out here, I'm not sure why anyone would believe that it'll work for 10 year olds.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Covid really did a number on them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 13 hours ago

Covid and technology. It's pretty well documented what modern social media does to people's attention spans. On top of it teachers weren't even allowed to take a kids phone in class until recently.