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Whoops. Capitalism, uh, finds a way.
Israel’s been illegally selling weapons to Russia for quite a while. But all of the people who could do anything about it are afraid to hold Israel accountable.
russia doesn't need Israeli help to get access to American parts
All the way back in the Cold War the Soviets had a governmental department specifically to source parts from the West that was blocked off to sanctions. They have decades of experience creating shell companies, intermediaries, etc.
if someone wants to do more research the parent organization was "First Main Directorate of the Committee for State Security under the USSR council of ministers" and the department was called "Directorate T: Scientific and Technical Intelligence" sometimes referred to as just "Line X"
so basically the Russians have had many decades of experience circumventing sanctions and export controls. The Russians, while a shell of the former USSR, still have a lot of the human capital and base of experience in this regard.
I remember reading an article on Reuters or Washington Post or something where apparently even after sanctions, the Russians are getting roughly 90% of the high-tech components they were getting before the war. So the sanctions have hurt, but by a marginal amount. I think it's this article: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/western-industrial-components-rebuilding-russias-military-2024-08-16/ but Reuters is now paywalled for me
Is this a hasbara attempt to deflect from the fact that Israel is selling weapons to Russia?
if you look at my history it isn't particularly pro-israeli
it's just that in this specific context, I don't think it's as significant as it may seem on first reading. Israel has had a long relationship of cooperation with Russia. Although lately things have gotten more tense between the two, with Iran and Russia becoming closer. Iran is Israel's mortal enemy and Russia supplying money and tech transfer over in exchange for Shaheeds is a big no-no for them
so while yes, there probably are pro-Russian elements in the Israeli state that have probably helped Russia circumvent sanctions and export controls.. the brunt of their materials probably comes from China, from European sources, and maybe even American companies themselves.
What is that “probably” based on?
Israel has a history of arming their enemies and extremists to intentionally destabilize the region. They founded and materially supported Hamas, even as they fired rockets into Israel, in order to undermine peaceful secular groups.
not saying they don't do all of that. read the reuters article i linked before. or this one: https://carnegieendowment.org/research/2024/03/why-russia-has-been-so-resilient-to-western-export-controls?lang=en
russia does not need israel. they have complex and sophisticated systems that these days use China a lot but they don't even need China. it's sometimes impossible to tell whether you're selling your microwaves to a russian company or not. it'll look like a legit company, and then it gets somehow routed to russia and they use the microchips or whatever.
all i'm saying is
a) it doesn't need Israel's help for this.
b) israel doesn't have the industrial capacity (small country, gdp only $500B) the geopolitical position for it (they are a tool of US interests and would not meaningfully harm US interests) and the domestic will for it (again, russia is friends with Iran, Israel's mortal enemy)
there absolutely are parts of the government that will support Russia. Almost half of Israelis speak Russian and have connections to that area. So yeah, of course. But from a top-down directive it's doubtful
notice i'm not denying Israel does not supply extremists. i'm specifically referring to this russia-israel dynamic
yes, israel supports extremists. they have a very advanced intelligence system and do all sorts of crazy shit. they're wild. i agree
Israel would not meaningfully harm US interests?! Bahahahha!
Israel & the US are more or less one and the same. if i remember correctly, 98% of representatives in congress last election cycle was endorsed by the AIPAC
there's a reason we can only vote for pro-Israeli politicians. Israel projects US power in the mideast
russia doesn’t need Israeli help to get access to American parts
But it sure helps.
Yes, and the Americans did it as well
Ukraine wouldn't waste drones like that. Every drone can carry a little something for the Russians.
Iron man 2008:
"Western parts"? What do we still manufacfure in the west?
There is a very nice open source project which made software for drone motor drivers which shut down due to the sanctions as it was open sourced and was accessed by Russians and contributing to their war effort. So there is so many little things like that. It's the blheli project.
$80.9 Billion USD of weapons and vehicles for military use were sold to foreign countries in FY2023.
Domestically, the US Military spent about 820.3 Billion.
Other products in 2022, sorted by amount in Billions would be the items listed in this table:
From Table 2 of "What is made in America?" on Commerce dot gov
So it looks like Tobacco, guns, vehicles, and Petrochem is the answer.
name of the company making those components and allowing them get to russia should be publicly known
https://war-sanctions.gur.gov.ua/en/components
Apparently it is
i hope they go under, my own country could easily be the one getting bombed by russians
Are they being sold to Russia directly, or is Russia buying them through an intermediary to skirt around sanctions.
Essentially nation-level straw purchasing.
Thats capitalism baby, we gotta profit from both aides during the war
Yeah, it's the whole point of the war. Who's going to steal ukrainian resources after capital profits massively from destroying the country?
$20 is $20
>Russian Drone
>Look inside
>Western components
I don't think sanctions will prevent literally everything from getting to Russia, but it will make it much slower and reduce the quantity substantially.