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    Yes yes, I REALLY want to terminate that process and I am very sure about it too, ty.

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    [–] [email protected] 1 points 20 minutes ago
    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago

    both OS ask a process to end nicely? Then force closing in windows is with task manager or kill -9 in linux

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

    btw funny story since many comments mention NFS/CIFS:

    I have a share mounted at /smb and the server sometimes just dies so when I want to unmount it I run umount /smb but my shell (zsh) hangs after typing umount /sm and the b doesn't even show

    I guess zsh does a kind of stat() on everything you type but bash came to save the day

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

    I don't know if clean ZSH does it, but if you have the zsh-syntax-highlighting plugin, it tests if the path you're typing exists every time you edit the line.

    [–] [email protected] 34 points 10 hours ago

    Actually no, it's just that the programs on Linux usually accept SIGINT, SIGTERM, etc pretty gracefully. Some are even smart enough to handle it on a thread hang. SIGKILL is last resort.

    Lots of Windows applications like to ignore the close request because Windows doesn't have signals and instead you can only pass a window name to request exit which is the same as clicking the close button.

    So any hung software won't respond and you have to terminate it.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    That's how the task manager does it.

    There's third party alternatives that do it like Linux does it

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

    SuperF4 was my savior when I tried playing modded FalloutNV.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

    Doesn't taskkill /force also do so for the most part? Except maybe a system protected service or something. Haven't tried it on those.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

    I've honestly not had this problem on windows since Windows 8.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

    1000009525 Enters the chat

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    Unless it is nfs unmount on down server. Or failed disk...

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

    Bigger fish to fry at that point bub

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

    Is there some Linux equivalent to "ctrl + alt + del?" I get that killing a process from the terminal is preferred, but one of the few things I like about windows is if the GUI freezes up, I can pretty much always kill the process by pressing ctrl+alt+del and finding it in task manager. Using Linux if I don't already have the terminal open there are plenty of times I'm just force restarting the computer because I don't know what else to do.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

    Do you have enough swap allocated to your linux machine? I found that my GUI froze frequently due to not having enough of it when the computer was under heavy load.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    Ctrl+alt+F1/F2/F3 etc.
    It lets you switch to another terminal session, where you can use something like top/htop for a commandline equivalent to task manager.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

    That's what I don't get about what they said above. If the Windows desktop freezes up, Task Manager won't open either (happened to me quite some times over the years - less so since they moved to the NT kernel though). What you mentioned always works short of kernel panic.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

    I'd say it's been over a decade since I've had an issue where windows task manager didn't work. Maybe I'm not using exciting enough programs.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

    Try ctrl+shift+ESC And remember, there are customizable hotkeys, just explore the settings

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

    I've heard those quick keys a thousand times but my brain has determined that it is not necessary information for me to retain.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

    most distros have something, yeah, generally called [something] monitor

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