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[–] [email protected] 2 points 27 minutes ago (2 children)

Americans are too spoiled, coddled, lazy, entitled, dependant, and apathetic to fight a civil war.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 24 minutes ago (1 children)

As the Lenin quote goes, every society is three hot meals away from chaos. The standard of living in US is rapidly collapsing, and people's wages are not keeping up with the cost of living. That can't go on forever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

That's a great quote. I hadn't heard that one from him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 27 minutes ago

It's actually dependent with an e that is the correct spelling. I'm reporting to my nearest re-education camp.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Then quarter (at least) of Americans are dumb as shit. Who's going to revolt? The low IQ boomer fuckwits that believe the shit they read on Facebook? Give me a break. Half of those wrinkly old shit stains are so glued to their own couches watching Fox "news" they'd probably have a heart attack from the physicality of walking up a steep incline.

So sick of this fucking bullshit line that we're going to have a civil war. Go the fuck outside and get some fresh air jesus christ.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

so, were afraid the same people who lost the last civil war are somehow going to think they can do it this time?

losers are gunna be losers i spose. i dont see it. these people are cowards and have no real targets. they are not organized. they are a joke.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Both right-wing candidates are acceptable to the capitalist class, and there is no militant mass labor movement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

I get the impression that the capitalist class is far from unified. It's clear that at least some members calculate that they might be better off with their own personal fiefdoms like Texas or Florida. Also, it's undeniable that there is increasing polarization of society, which is largely driven by the oligarch owned media. Even if the intent isn't to cause civil unrest, it's easy for events to take on a life of their own as this process continues. The continuously declining standard of living is fuelling public anger, and the media tells people that half the country is their enemy who is responsible for this. Both democrat and republican control outlets are actively radicalizing their viewers. Here's an example of what I mean straight from lemmy https://lemmy.ml/post/21741562/14500351

The situation the US is headed for is one where a significant portion of the public no longer believes the elections are fair, and increasingly sees violence as an acceptable way to resolve problems. The fundamental reason people accept the system is because they see it as being broadly fair. The social contract is that you go and vote, and if your side loses, well that's cause most people wanted something different, and you're just going to accept that. However, if you believe that the election was stolen then you no longer see the power structures as being legitimate. At that point you see yourself as living under tyranny.

I don't think that a militant mass labor movement is needed for a civil war to start. It's not going to look like the last civil war with two armies fighting each other. It's going to look more like Rwanda, where you'll see mass murder, and ethnic cleansing happening all over the country.