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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I am a bit OOTL - which ones went down? Things like Internet Archive & related to AnimeFLV? I presume new ones will come back though?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I don't know, but in France people got scared by "HADOPI" which was a government organization to find people sharing files, and like they were sending you e-mails if caught! And if caught a second time, BAM a paper letter! Scary! Then I think there was something like cutting your internet, not sure it ever happened.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

seems mostly accurate, except there was no bittorrent in 2002

edit: apparently the protocol was released in 2001- TIL

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Regardless of whether or not this is true, memes from an older generation saying they're better than the younger generation are ALWAYS cringe

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

In the feature if you want a semblance of privacy, you will need to get fluent in Linux imho

Your chocie folks.

As for piracy, it ain't rocket science, once economic necessity kicks in, they will figure it out. That's the beauty of not having money

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I am sure you still have same number of those more advanced users, but now far more people have access to computers because they are cheaper and easier to use. That may be about it.

[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 month ago (18 children)

I'm an older GenZ born in the late 90s and I've had to show a few younger peers how to torrent recently.

The idea of you needing a "special" program just for downloading a file seems to throw some of them off.

I do know a few young people are tech/programming wizards but "generally tech savy" people seem to be declining. It's either you're really into it or barely know anything outside popular apps.

One other thing I've noticed, People just seem to be more paranoid about downloading stuff not already installed on their devices. Which its good people give at least a bit of a shit about security but convincing people Firefox isn't a virus gets a bit annoying (Yes I've had that conversation).

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

i remember not using firefox for a rlly long time bc i heard it’s ram usage with multiple tabs open was a lot less efficient than other browsers. idk if that’s true but i use firefox w 4 windows with 20+ tabs each and have never had a problem

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

this may still be true, we just tend to have more RAM nowadays

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Honestly as a German, torrenting seems to be way too risky. Internet providers will immediately cave when they are contacted about an IP adress they control and there are multiple law firms whose only business model seems to be sending out c&d letters.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As part of Gen Z I do not approve this message. When I was young I would stream movies from stream sites (to be fair I had no money to have VPN to torrent etc) but I have not visited one of those for like 5 years now since I learned more. Now not all gen Z is tech smart I see it in my friends and family members close to me age who are.... Dumb and worse they don't care to get better and think it's fine and that is what the problem is imo.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

Some people just stick to the ez pz apps and don't care about their privacy or to understand what they're working with. With modern phones and pc's that treat people like toddlers, a lot of people don't develop skills further than that

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Boy, I remember how desperate all of Germany was when kino.to went down. It took at least a week until everyone found an alternative!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It took at least a week until everyone found an alternative!

Cruel and Unusual punishment

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[–] [email protected] 188 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (42 children)

I think it's more a generational gap in basic computer skills.

Millennials grew up alongside modern computing (meaning the two matured together). We dealt with everything from BASIC on a C64 to DOS and then through Windows 3 through current. We also grew up alongside Linux. We understand computers (mostly) and the (various) paradigms they use.

Gen Z is what I refer to as the iPad generation (give or take a few years). Everything's dumbed down and they never had to learn what a folder is or why you should organize documents into them instead of throwing them all in "Documents" library and just using search. (i.e. throw everything in a junk drawer and rummage through it as needed).

As with millennials who can't balance a checkbook or do basic household tasks, I don't blame Gen Z for not learning; I blame those who didn't teach them. In this case, tech companies who keep dumbing everything down.

Edit: "Balance a checkbook" doesn't have to mean a physical transaction log for old school checks. It just means keeping track of expenditures and deposits so that you know the money in your account is sufficient to cover your purchases. You'd be surprised how many people my age can't manage that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I think your first paragraph only applies to US or US-like countries. I learned how to navigate unregulated Internet to download most things I could fit, and then expanded into more technical knowledge as I grew up. I know of the things you said in your first paragraph now, but I did not grow up beside them to have learned what I know today, or even what I knew back then. These computers were expensive (for us?) at first, so very few people had them, and then a few years later they were more abundant and easier for us to even have a chance to learn about them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

You say that like other generations don't also just save everything to the desktop.

It's not about generations at all. Some people who grew up with early computers may have used them but never really "got it".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Almost like the education system was meant as a long term investment to turn out a profit instead of “education”

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Your analysis fits neatly into what the book Because Internet describes as different waves of "internet people". First were geeks who went there before it was mainstream, second us millennials growing up as it is getting mainstream, alongside older folks forced to use it at work or voluntarily at home. Third wave are GenZ growing up when everything is easy already and, ironically, also even older folks now that it's accessible for them.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago

I appreciate this measured take. Whenever generational differences get brought up, they oftentimes seemed framed as if generations are biologically different creatures or willfully choosing to be stupid in some sector. In all, or at least must cases, it's what you suggest: people responding and developing based on what the environment has presented them.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Exactly. Basically nobody in their 30s can, say, drive a manual car without a synchro, unless they specifically practiced it, because there is zero need to learn that skill. And basically nobody under 20 can set port forwarding on a router because there is basically zero need for that skill.

When I wanted sound on Arkanoid, I HAD to learn IRQ settings, so I did. But now that stuff just works.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Who owns a checkbook? I also didn't need to learn cursive, or how to take care of a horse. If you want to learn something you will.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Balance a checkbook" doesn't have to mean a physical transaction log. It just means keeping track of expenditures and deposits so that you know the money in your account is sufficient to cover your purchases. You'd be surprised how many people my age can't manage that. Also, at first, I read that as "Who owns a Chromebook?" lol.

Outside of using cursive for my signature, yeah, I've never used it in real life.

If you want to learn something you will.

True, but we learned computing because we had to.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

By the time I was born, checks weren't in regular use here anymore. I've never seen one in real life. I'm 27

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You probably do not know b/c reddthat has downvotes disabled, but people are downvoting your comment.

I find it the height of irony that your comment, which is relevant and contributes to the conversation, is receiving the "*I* personally do not like this idea" treatment.

A comment that aims to provide a more balanced perspective, to round out the discussion beyond "things should be the way that I am most comfortable with", and offering not only logical facts but very relevant personal experience.

~~Reddit~~ Lemmy can be so toxic sometimes. :-|

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

35 and I've used cheques 2x in my life

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I seen teens without being able to make a folder in windows because they only use phones, so.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's torrent clients on Android. You don't need a computer

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

many such cases.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The switch from using shit like Napster/LimeWire/eDonkey/etc to BitTorrent was fairly easy. It was the lack of the torrent app itself not having a file search in it that made things feel like they went backwards.

Before Napster and the rest, you'd do a web search for "warez" and sift through shady sites to find a working download link. After Napster, you'd just search for what you want in the app. I know there are torrent apps that do this now, but I don't know how wide of a reach they actually have. I still just go to a tracker's website and find things to magnet link.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

eDonkey was an easy way to share something with a group of friends via P2P!

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