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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

New piece from The Atlantic: The Age of AI Child Abuse is Here, which delves into a large-scale hack of Muah.AI and the large-scale problem of people using AI as a child porn generator.

And now, another personal sidenote, because I cannot stop writing these (this one's thankfully unrelated to the article's main point):

The idea that "[Insert New Tech] Is Inevitable^tm^" (which Unserious Academic interrogated in depth BTW) took a major blow when NFTs crashed and burned in full view of the public eye and got rapidly turned into a pop-culture punchline.

That, I suspect, is helping to fuel the large scale rejection of AI and resistance to its implementation - Silicon Valley's failure to make NFTs a thing has taught people that Silicon Valley can be beaten, that resistance is anything but futile.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Really appreciate that link to Unserious Academic! This piece underlines something very important about the forces (by forces I mean weirdos) we struggle against.

Also, this bit:

This technology was pre-ordained by the universe

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Silicon Valley can be beaten, that resistance is anything but futile.

I read this line basically in this voice

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

i am hearing that ProQuest has been quietly contacting small publishers to see if it can ingest their published output for AI training.

ProQuest has an AI thing now, but it's denied it's training on hosted content ... yet.

if you are, or know, an author who's had a letter of this sort recently, mentioning ProQuest or no, i'd love to know and please tell your friends - email is [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like Vitalik Buterin creating eht because he was mad his op WoW char got nerfed, we now have more gamers lore. J D Vance played a Yawgmoth's Bargain deck.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the harris campaign must get his list. if he ran three dark rituals the election is over

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We cannot allow a dark ritual gap.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"O Cent O Pence (R)" is an anagram for "Necropotence"

Trump is clearly campaigning on the critically overlooked black draw engine platform, possibly to spite blue voters.

Edit: "One Percent Co." was right there! It's all coming together now!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

brb, ran out of red cord.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As Nina Power was mentioned before, here is an article on a Welsh 'druid'/forger which touches that subject (and Marx) a bit. People might find it an interesting read.

Anti-Woke Druids and Radical Bards - 'What links Welsh 18th century romantic Druid-Bards, gathering around a circle of pebbles in North London, and the contemporary online right?'

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Then there is John Michael Greer...

Wow, that's a name I haven't heard in a long time.

A regular contributor at UnHerd...

I did not know that, and I hate that it doesn't surprise me. I tended to dismiss his peak oil doomerism as wishing for some imagined "harmony with nature". This doesn't help with that bias.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

It was an interesting read, thanks for posting it.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

NYT: "Microsoft and OpenAI’s Close Partnership Shows Signs of Fraying" (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/17/technology/microsoft-openai-partnership-deal.html)

Archive: https://archive.ph/Bas23

HN link from whence I got this, have not mined this for sneers: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41878281

edit oh wait found one

OpenAI's revenue isn't from advertising, it should be slightly easier for them to resist the call of enshittification this early in the company history.

Can't enshittify that which is already shit

Twice in the last week I've had Claude refuse to answer questions about a specific racial separatist group (nothing about their ideology, just their name and facts about their membership) and questions about unconventional ways to assess job candidates. Both times I turned to ChatGPT and it gave me an answer immediately

Just a normal hackernews, testing if the models they use are racist

Well, at this point most new data being created is conversations with chatgpt, seeing as how stack overflow and reddit are increasingly useless, so their conversation logs are their moat.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Twice in the last week I’ve had Claude refuse to answer questions about a specific racial separatist group (nothing about their ideology, just their name and facts about their membership)

The unspecificity is damning. "Facts about their membership" might range from "what racial separatist group is Skum Shitt (R, NC) a former member of" to "am I eligible to join The Brotherhood of Untarnished Ejaculate".

and questions about unconventional ways to assess job candidates.

That's an interesting example to pair up with the one about racist hate groups. Unconventional in what way, motherfucker?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

tl;dr of the article: ever since the ousting of altman, microsoft, which virtually owns openai, has been suspicious of openai's actual worth. therefore MS has cut down on the infinite resource flow. openai employees are whining about this.

there is one additional point in three of the near final paragraphs, which I'll quote in full because they are so amusing to me

Still, OpenAI employees complain that Microsoft is not providing enough computing power, according to three people familiar with the relationship. And some have complained that if another company beat it to the creation of A.I. that matches the human brain, Microsoft will be to blame because it hasn’t given OpenAI the computing power it needs, according to two people familiar with the complaints.

Oddly, that could be the key to getting out from under its contract with Microsoft. The contract contains a clause that says that if OpenAI builds artificial general intelligence, or A.G.I. — roughly speaking, a machine that matches the power of the human brain — Microsoft loses access to OpenAI’s technologies.

The clause was meant to ensure that a company like Microsoft did not misuse this machine of the future, but today, OpenAI executives see it as a path to a better contract, according to a person familiar with the company’s negotiations. Under the terms of the contract, the OpenAI board could decide when A.G.I. has arrived.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The first paragraph surprised me. I didn't know there were still some true believers left.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think I see a possible future here. Just as the promptfondlers are now trying to talk down human accomplishments to make the LLMs sound more impressive ('it learns just like a child!' (no, it doesn't)). As when you are trying to reach a deal on a car, you either need the buyer to raise the price, or the seller to lower theirs. This will lead to a lawsuit where they are going to drop down the theoretical capabilities of an AGI just to trigger this clause.

And as the judge thinks that emoji's are a form of novelty pasta, any potential jury can't spell stattistical, there is a 50% chance that they will be convinced it is AGI because humans like the AGI also make mistakes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Still unclear how OpenAI declaring they've created an AGI (and getting this adjudicated as "true") and thus being released from their MSFT partnership helps OpenAI. They're just lost all their compute, and will have a worse negotiating position from which to get more compute. What's the upside?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

They can sell out to someone else instead? Amazon seems to want to be an AI company, for example, and their current offering isn’t great even by the relaxed standards of LLMs.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

pivot to ai now has working dark mode! all praise to the illustrious @[email protected]

i still hate dark mode, but others fucking love it so

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thank for letting me know there are other people indifferent to dark mode. Sometimes I feel I am the only one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

i have already had whiny shits demand that I (a) set dark mode default (b) remove the switch

default is currently set to whatever your browser thinks is the default and you can switch it otherwise

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

this is the best default imo

the only times I dislike it are when the site's dark mode implementation is trash. I occasionally get to notice these, because their implementation is such way that dark reader activates (time trigger), I suddenly get flashblind on some site because dark reader flips their thing to eye-stabbing light colours

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

it's a little magical and not entirely reliable so i'm not a fan, but the switch is there

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

God forbid you go out of your way to do something nice without some most entitled asshole in the world giving you shit for it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Awful.systems defaults to dark mode.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

like a good developer, I made my personal preference the default (and I think when we started there were major issues with switching themes?)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

This is what the BDFL model is all about.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

booooo should be my personal preference (light)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

brb banning David from the awful.systems plugin repo, modifying the login page so everyone has to swear they don’t know him, and launching a lawsuit for (throws a dart at a dartboard) uhh shoplifting, he shoplifted my website

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

YOU ~wouldn’t~

shoplift a ~WEBSITE~

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

and now that damn jingle is playing in my head at early o’ clock

awful.systems: where the abyss delivers, always

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Common mistake, but David is from the UK. He was actually just looking online for ways to improve wheelchair accessibility in a multistory house. On a lift-shopping website.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isnt he a goth? Dont think he needs more lifts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Wouldn't a goth prefer heavy mode?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

imma fuckin do it again

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

The only reason I use dark mode is because my phone is OLED so it uses less power. Otherwise I go for light.

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