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I'd say it goes both ways. Some people are presenting anecdotal evidence and conjecture as fact, arguing against actual facts.
What's epistemology? What is object/subject dualism? What is Gödel's incompleteness theorem? Idk, I just know other people are stupid
Some of y'all have a piss poor education in humanities and it shows
Is the incompleteness theorem humanities? I thought it was comsci?
Edit: Oh God I'm dumb it's not comsci idk why I said that lol, but it is still mathematics.
Yeah I thought that too, but it has strong epistemic/ontological implications. Kind of a mix imo
Anecdote isn't worthless, it just takes a lot of it to become credible.
Like, think of an anecdote like a single study - doesn't carry much weight, but may indicate that further investigation is called for. A shit ton of anecdotes all making a similar claim - now we've got peer review that may actually add up to something significant. It also may not, but the more it builds momentum without being debunked, the more likely it is to be actually getting at something real.
On the other hand, when someone claims something is impossible/something has never happened before/something happens every single time, but you have just 1 anecdote from a credible source that contradicts that claim, then that 1 anecdote is enough to know that they are wrong.
Example: some pundit states: our government has never executed an innocent man. You just need proof that they have executed a single innocent man to show that the pundit has no credibility on the subject and that it's thus not an impossibility that other executed men were also innocent.
I agree that anecdotes aren't worthless, but for different reasons. There's actually a saying that goes, "the plural of anecdote isn't data." Anecdotes are just stories. They aren't data points and they aren't peer reviewed. If you want to turn anecdotes into data, you have to do the proper interviews and surveys to actually build a dataset and then get the peer review, but at that point we aren't talking about anecdotes anymore.
Doesn't a "lot of anecdotal evidence" eventually become a sample set?
Not unless someone methodologically captures all the accounts through interviews and surveys and turns it into one.
Your daily lemmy experience. Better make sure the only facts you quote are "oild rigs are weather machines", "twitter is now worth 25% of what musk paid for it".
Don't you dare quoting facts like "Trump has only half of the popular vote". You'll be chased and, maybe, banned.
twitter is now worth 25% of what musk paid for it
is the actual number more or less than that
I haven't heard anything but mockery about the "Democrats control the weather" thing. Are there Lemmy communities that have actual idiots spouting this? Other than the few famous trolls who are basically doing a bit at this point?
“Trump has only half of the popular vote”
What's divisive about that? Honest question, I'm genuinely oblivious.
He didn't even have half of the popular vote when he got elected. This is recorded historical fact. Clinton received 3m more votes.
Yeah, okay, but how is the statement “Trump has only half of the popular vote” chase and/or banworthy? Who bans you for that, and for what reasoning? Don't get me wrong, I've seen some pretty weird moderation on some instances, just not this particular instance.
Ok, that's a fair question, and I don't have an answer for that one. I've so far successfully avoided this particular landmine.
I wish this was only on Lemmy. I live this life. I am surrounded by this daily! I am scared in my own country.
Personally I'm all about objective opinions.
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