Don't most medics have a sidearm? I know there are/have been pacifists & conscientious objectors in those roles in the past. But I don't know what standard issue is for medics.
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Nope. Favours pro play and is absolutely shit at lower tiers.
This is why Mercy has a gun and why tanks in mobas have to have a bit of kill potential. It'd be incredibly frustrating to want to play a healer like that and your team being completely dogshite without you having any ability to affect enemies.
AugustUwU, a Riot developer talks about that a bit on some of his videos.
Disagree. Both Ragnarok Online pvp and World of Warcraft arena had tank mage builds (discipline priest and priest/high priest) and they were incredibly fun to play. Especially early-ish discipline pvp was all about proactive absorption and then removing as many buffs and burning mana of the enemy.
Then of course blizzard did their usual blizzard shit.
Balancing is different in a MMORPG. And one person having fun really doesn't tell a lot. The point is that when it's done in team games, usually it ends up frustrating most players.
Like say a MOBA had a hero who had a 30% winrate. There might be plenty of mains who don't mind at all and find the hero fun and good. But the stats from a million games tells a better story than anecdotal experiences.
edit remember that in an mmorpg, everyone in a pvp scenario already has a ton of experience in the game, whereas with a moba, you haven't necessarily played one character through hundreds of hours of grinding.
I still think it's okay to have high skill ceiling classes though. It's one reason dota2 Invoker was so popular for example.
They could probably add one healer in a moba or team shooter that has a complicated but rewarding game play.
Like think about this this way; you couldn't really have a champion who couldn't heal at all either, and did "100% damage". Like, if you did insane amounts of damage, but only had a certain amount of health and no way of getting it back.
It's not exactly the same, of course, but it does highlight something that could sort of never work. (Never say never, but, you know...)
I still think it's okay to have high skill ceiling classes though
I never implied otherwise.
But you can't really have 100% healers and 100% tanks who can't deal damage in teamgames like mobas and shooters.
That's why Mercy has a gun, even when it is very rarely used.
Was with you until you thought you were speaking of my girlfriend being a support role.
Dude, I’d be willing to bet she’d eat your lunch in a multiplayer shooter.
Maybe lose the sexist shit and I’d say you’ve got something here!
Sorry if this sounded offensive, I thought it could be a light pun. My apologies.
In any case, I know plenty of girls that would absolutely kick my ass in shooters and that actively take offensive roles. I never meant to say all girls are opposed to taking a gun!
That's not what a pun is anyway tho
You’re all good.
Nope, I'm cancelling OP. He's cancelled. He'll get the paperwork... Eventually.
Play squad or Arma.
Dreadnought had a support cruiser what was like that. Wasn't super boring either.
I'm still so sad to see Dreadnought gone.
Its pace is first a bit slow for folks used to fast-paced shooters, but it is actually genious. When you get used to it, you just see this is how it should be, always.
Putting tactics before pure reaction.
Had so much fun playing each ship class. Maybe They should have reskinned the game for a 40k theme. Would have been fun even if balanced was terrible. I could just imagine orks spamming red button for speed or imperials ramming everything.
Lol
Wouldn't shooting them violate some kind of convention (like Geneva, idk) in this case?
If shooters were played by Geneva convention, where would be the fun? :P
I try to play my Arma 3 abiding to Geneva convention and is quite fun
Arma is a full blown simulator, which is an entire different story :)
But I should have clarified it
I feel like there's already lots of things in lot's of games that violate a variety of conventions
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So basically Mercy from Overwatch? I think most games have versions of this type of healer. Medic in TF2 etc. They basically have guns that can't do much other than be used to shoot your teammates in the face to get their attention.
Last time I played Overwatch I was healing as Mercy and our Roadhog just watched as I fly past while getting chased by someone on the other team and kill the guy chasing me. Then he bitched me out for fighting instead of healing him. I was like mfer if you don't want me to fight keep them off me. Then everyone acted like I was the toxic one.
Medic mains when their "useless" ubersaw crits for the 12th time in a row
Have you never seen a battle mercy wipe an enemy team?
Mercy got that Glock delivered straight from the angry hands of God and it shows
Kitsune Angel combo, unlimited ammo delivered at high speed
The only reason I start shooting is if my team isn't doing their job. You want me to go out there and heal with no protection from the enemy? They already focus on the healers as it is, and we get left behind often. I honestly would never play healer again. All the stuff you're explaining already happens. My goal already is to avoid damage, my team is already supposed to protect me (and when they don't/can't, I have a weapon for that).
~~also, not only "girlfriends" dislike shooting, there are plenty of guys who are main healers~~
Girlfriend joke was just a light pun :D
I respect healer main guys, and often am one :)
Went over my head. My bad.
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