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So you don’t think these patents are going after any aspect of Palworld that players would recognize as a defining feature of a Pokémon game?

I mean, there's like a mechanic where you throw the spheres, right? And this is a very obvious, in your face system [that’s very much like Pokémon]. But I think that it will be a lot more technical than this. Nintendo would have dug through every single action inside the game, they would have probably reverse engineered it, and just find ways to sue these guys. 

You can bet your life that Nintendo hates this company, and they couldn't find an angle with the character designs. This is why they are not mentioned in their press release. So they come with these technical peculiarities. So I personally believe, if you act like this, you can sue like 90 percent of the game developers in the world. I'm sure there's like thousands of games that have a confirmation screen when you go from sleep mode to resuming the game right, but if you basically trigger the wrath of Nintendo, they will come after you.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Got too big?

I haven't heard anyone mention this since like a month after it came out. It's down to 20k players from like two million in January.

https://steamcharts.com/app/1623730

This is just Nintendo's standard glacial pace. We've had ROM sites up for a decade before they were taken down. No doubt some team of lawyers have been collecting a gargantuan hourly rate while putting together all the images of Palworld NPCs and how they're blatant Pokemon rip-offs.

And they're not wrong, exactly. There's a lot of Pokemon rip-off games about. Digimon, Yokai Watch, Temtem, etc. But only Palworld has had me see the screenshots and go "they're Pokemon". Even Aldi don't advertise their frosted flakes with a cartoon tiger in a red neckerchief. There are lines, and when you step over them lawyers tend to get involved.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

My money’s on the balls, Nintendo always likes to kick the balls.

[–] [email protected] 129 points 1 month ago (8 children)

This is not business. This is extortion. Palworld has opened a can of worms with a realization that gamers don’t need Pokemon anymore. There can be better alternatives.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think this is a bad take, and the interviewer seems to contradict himself. He suggests that Nintendo goes after companies who copy them, but also mentions another company they've sued for patent infringement for a game that didn't resemble any Nintendo property. So it seems like it has less to do with whether or not you "trigger the wrath of Nintendo", and more whether you use their patents or not.

It should be noted that this is all just conjecture from somebody not related to the case at all. Nothing in this interview reveals any details about the actual case in question.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Nintendo is one of the worst companies in the videogames world. They need to fail, and I really hope this next switch becomes something worse than WiiU and they disappear from the world.

However, they won't. Their fanatics won't let them. So I can only hope they double down in their anti consumer behaviour to screw as many customers as they can. Because honestly? If after all these years you keep buying a Pokémon game, you deserve to be scammed and abused as a customer.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

My hot take is that even before they flushed their goodwill down the toilet, they were a mediocre company. "Here, buy our 500 dollar console with graphics worse than your phone so you can play the Mario game that we added a magic hat to."

Worst and most expensive products in the industry.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

most expensive products in the industry.

Counter point: PS5 Pro is au$1200 vs Switch OLED for au$540

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Counter counterpoint Ps5 pro is modern hardware. Switch internals were outdated at launch and they still cost the same as 7 years ago.

Ps: I do believe Ps5 pro is stupidly overpriced, but that doesn't mean Switch isn't.

Edit: typo

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Show me a platformer as good as Mario Odyssey not counting A Hat in Time, and I might stop buying from Nintendo. Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom are great games too. Saying that they don't offer anything valuable is misguided.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You have to buy their shitty overpriced console to play those. The value nosedives.

And psychonauts 1/2 are right there.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mario Odyssey is just Mario 64-2. New gimmicks on a traditional platformer. Not saying that it's bad, but it's not a masterpiece either.

Breath of the wild, sure. One of the greatest games made by Nintendo, it redefined the open world genre, but tears of the kingdom is just more of the same, now with cars.

They offer something valuable? Sure... Sometimes they do something good, but the amount of bullshit they bring the videogames world is so big that any good thing they make is strongly eclipsed by the rest of what they do.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

There's no doubt they've created some very good games in the past. Some of their games have become the standard in their genre, and some others have created a new genre even.

But that can't justify their shitty behavior. Especially now that they only create crap. Sure, breath of the wild was huge, made some incredible things, etc. But what else? Mario Odyssey is just mario 64 v.2, animal crossing? Let's not talk about that shit, and I think Pokémon doesn't even deserve to be mentioned.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They need to fail, and I really hope this next switch becomes something worse than WiiU and they disappear from the world.

However, they won't. Their fanatics won't let them.

Nintendo is famously one of the most cash rich companies out there. A fiscal report from last year indicated they had USD$9 billion in liquid assets.

Nintendo isn't going anywhere anytime soon and it has very little to do with whether or not fanatics "let them".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Well, I mean, if they are that rich, I'm partial to thinking that it's their fanatics' fault buying every shit they release. If a Pokémon game, being as bad as they are, keeps selling in the millions, nobody but their customers is to blame.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have been boycotting nintendo for a while now. But it seems that for most people, they don't care how horrid a company is so long as they get to consume.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The best example of this is Disney.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

Fuck Nintendo.

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