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How Israel Built a Modern-Day Trojan Horse: Exploding Pagers (www.nytimes.com)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The Israeli government did not tamper with the Hezbollah devices that exploded, defense and intelligence officials say. It manufactured them as part of an elaborate ruse.

In Lebanon, as Israel picked off senior Hezbollah commandos with targeted assassinations, their leader came to a conclusion: If Israel was going high-tech, Hezbollah would go low. It was clear, a distressed Hezbollah chief, Hassan Nasrallah, said, that Israel was using cellphone networks to pinpoint the locations of his operatives.

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Israeli intelligence officials saw an opportunity.

Even before Mr. Nasrallah decided to expand pager usage, Israel had put into motion a plan to establish a shell company that would pose as an international pager producer.

By all appearances, B.A.C. Consulting was a Hungary-based company that was under contract to produce the devices on behalf of a Taiwanese company, Gold Apollo. In fact, it was part of an Israeli front, according to three intelligence officers briefed on the operation. They said at least two other shell companies were created as well to mask the real identities of the people creating the pagers: Israeli intelligence officers.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago

New title: "How Isreal commit acts of terrorism"

[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 months ago (4 children)

In Lebanon’s Bekaa Valley, in the village of Saraain, one young girl, Fatima Abdullah, had just come home from her first day of fourth grade when she heard her father’s pager begin to beep, her aunt said. She picked up the device to bring it to him and was holding it when it exploded, killing her. Fatima was 9.

And

By the end of the day, at least a dozen people were dead and more than 2,700 were wounded, many of them maimed. And the following day, 20 more people were killed and hundreds wounded when walkie-talkies in Lebanon also began mysteriously exploding. Some of the dead and wounded were Hezbollah members, but others were not; four of the dead were children.

Both are war crimes, and while Israel hasn't formally declared war. Their defense minister is calling this a war.

But you can't use indiscriminate attacks, and you can't aim for maiming instead of killing.

Shit like this just makes more terrorists, which at this point is pretty obvious is Israels goal. They do t want to "win a war" they want to create a permanent boogey man so Israels current unpopular leaders get to hold.o to power a little longer.

Bibi and his people will keep doing this shit, because it's the only way they keep power.

They want war and chaos

[+] [email protected] -33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They eliminated 2800 terrorists and only killed 20 civilians. That's the most successful attack on an entrenched gorilla force in the history of humanity.

Hezbollah and Hamas love to use civilians, children, and humanitarian aid as shields. Committing war crimes to stop the people committing war crimes is an odd argument.

This was a much more humane attack than firing RPGs from a hospital for example.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They eliminated 2800 terrorists

Israel said they're terrorists...

They also called American citizens who protest the American government providing arms for a genocide terrorists...

Would you be ok with them blowing up US college students for using the first amendment?

[+] [email protected] -28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's more like can we pick off those 2 or 3 people in that crowd of protesters that are about to do serious harm? If so...yea...do it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

But we don't know if they did...

IDF claims it only hit targets, which we know isn't true, and people standing next to them were blown up too

I just don't understand why anyone would just take the IDFs word, they lie constantly

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Israel is a state sponsor of terror and should be condemned as such.

[+] [email protected] -24 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Everyone targeted was a member of an internationally recognised terrorist organisation, and there was no reason for non-members to ever have the pagers. There are questions about rules of engagement, but one thing this operation wasn’t technically is terrorism.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Did you ask Fatima, the 10 year old girl killed in the explosions, if it was terrorism? Or would you just tell her she should not have had that pager? Fucken heartless statement right here.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

These devices exploded in public places without regard for collateral damage to civilians. It is yet another war crime by Israel in addition to being an act of terror.

Also it's just not true that everyone was a member of Hezbollah. These devices are used by medical staff in hospitals. Israel has form in targeting doctors and hospitals.