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It's impressive how duckduckgo manages to be so much better than bing despite being a frontend for bing

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Softonic has to have made a deal with the SEO devil.

Non idea how their disgusting malware is always on top.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If only they could make a functioning store. Laterally the only os now where you still have to go to a third party website for software.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Can someone ELI5 how searx works and if it's worth the hassle of hosting? I'm privacy conscious but not paranoid.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Can someone ELI5 how searx works

It sends your search query to a bunch of different existing search engines, and shows you all of the results in one combined page

if it’s worth the hassle of hosting

Personally idk, maybe someone else can provide their opinion about this

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (11 children)

tbf it seems to be a common issue with search engines atm. brave also has the stupid ai response topmost, and startpage without adblock pushes in so many sponsored results that you need to scroll to get to anything else

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How does Microsoft’s compare to M*crosoft’s?

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And to add insult to injury...

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (4 children)

And they force windows users to not use chrome

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Isn't Edge based on Chrome?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Edge is basically Chrome but with microsoft spyware instead of google spyware... and without AVIF support for some reason!?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Yep aka chromium

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's good only if their choice wasnt even worst

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Edge is comparable to chrome

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Next time just go directly to the domain. You don't need to rely on a search engine for all web navigation, you know.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Yeah but then I would have to navigate logitech's stupid website to find the download button... and then navigate it again, because turns out the software for pairing standard receivers is completely separate from the software for pairing unifying receivers... Sigh... But hey, at least it doesn't force you to make an account!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

using a searchengine helps avoid domain squatting phishing. this is why I like domain bar as a search engine. if it's new I search it, if it's a place I've been to before it autocompletes the url.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have to constantly remind myself that the average user today cannot tell the difference between a search engine and a web browser.

And we have the URL bar pulling double duty as a search engine entry form to thank for that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I strongly fought for the Omnibar in the mid 2000’s as a pro-user feature and I regret everything. I was wrong.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Sometimes you just can't guess the domain name of a company you know. Also, it doesn't help that most companies website are fucking nightmare to navigate so having the relevant page on the first click is nice too

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not to defend Bing in anyway, but I typed logitech unifying software and the first result is the download page on logitechs site.

I am not doubting you, but why is it so different for me? I see non of the ???? section, no ads, just a link at the top like you would expect.

What are you using or doing different?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The screenshot is from Microsoft Edge running in Windows 10 (virtual machine) with no/little browsing history and no account connected. I'm hypothesizing here, but maybe these are the reasons:

  • You don't see the ??? section because you're not on Edge. Bing AI only works on edge (it checks your user agent)
  • You don't see the ad because you have an adblocker
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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Do you have uBlock or some similar ad blocker installed?

EDIT: I went and looked myself. I do have an ad-blocker installed. I don't see the ad. But I do see more noise than OP (desktop, Firefox):

  • There's a set of steps at the top left telling me to download and install the software, which is what OP was complaining about.

  • At the top right, there's a large, blue button with a link that guesses incorrectly that I want to know about Logitech Unifying Receiver Pairing, and just sends me to another Bing search.

  • Beneath that, there are a list of several questions that Microsoft incorrectly thinks I might be wanting to task and their answers.

  • Then there are two "Explore more" links linking me to pages describing how to pair with the software. One appears to link to "logi.com" with apparently is a Logitech business support page that links to the software, albeit only the Mac version, which I'd guess isn't what OP wanted.

  • Back on the left, I have what appears to be an AI spam question-answer site at thewindowsclub.com and another page on "how to unify" at robots.net.

  • Beneath that, I have a link to the Logitech download section. So it's in my top results and on my laptop, visible on the first screen of results, though beneath some not-really-desirable stuff.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I wouldn't say it's borderline unusable tbh...

The first adware result is blocked with any ad blocker, the fact you see it means you might not have your ad blocker on, or disabled in incognito mode.

The second and third copilot bullshit sections can be toggled off from any search result page, on the sidebar settings there's a toggle.

I do appreciate the bing rewards thing, basically every few weeks I get a gift card because you earn points by using bing

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Um, acktually, all you have to do to use the product successfully is to follow my bespoke instruction set that I posted to the premiere federated platform where I carefully enumerated the steps necessary to…..hey wait why are you running away from me I’m actively helping you!!!!!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Everything you’ve proposed as an easy fix would not apply to the vast majority of end users; the target audience.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Also…gift cards? Wtf. Makes this comment sound fake af.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

They got to you. It's too late to safe you. Rest peacefully.

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