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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

They have the power to make this happen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

True, because they would be better off abandoning fascism. Of course, they'll continue to slavishly follow him until he dies whether he wins or not.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

um the entire fucking world would be better off if trump loses, but i can't say i'm surprised by GOP, as usual, thinking about what's best for the party before the rest of the entire fucking world

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Everyone will be better off if Trump loses. Billionaires, Republicans, progressives, climate activists, Wall Street bankers, and congresspeople of every party.

Trump’s second term will be a Project 2025-enabled attempt to simply destroy the United States government and inflame a civil war in order to keep MAGA in power forever. I guess under the assumption that it’ll work smoothly and everything will continue as normal after, just with MAGA people in charge of the magically-still-working-smoothly machinery of the country?

It’s like those people who bought plane tickets to January 6th, thinking they would go there and violently overthrow the transfer of power and kill any congresspeople that stood in the way of it, and then they could go home and show up to work with Trump now in power and everything would go back to normal.

It’s naive to the point of absurd self delusion. And roughly 95% of our media and government is going along with the delusion. Anything reporting on “Trump is ahead in polls in Wisconsin” instead of “Trump wants to kill anyone who opposes him and destroy the Department of Education and deploy the military against any domestic opposition” is feeding into the comforting cognitive dissonance that things will be within the normal parameters if Trump wins and abortion or “the economy” will be on the table as issues, and not “what can we do to get water and charge my phone today” and “which side’s forces is my governor on the side of”.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

It’s like those people who bought plane tickets to January 6th, thinking they would go there and violently overthrow the transfer of power and kill any congresspeople that stood in the way of it, and then they could go home and show up to work with Trump now in power and everything would go back to normal.

Do you remember when armed militants invaded the Malheur wildlife refuge in Oregon, setting up what was sure to be a long, violent standoff with police and military?

2 weeks in, they arrested one of them. He'd taken a stolen ranger truck to get supplies at Safeway.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Fact check:

Claim: Everyone will be better off if Trump loses

Verdict: False. Trump will not be better off if he loses

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: he might die throwing a tantrum after losing.

We can't talk to the dead, how can we say for sure he's not better that way?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So do something about it you cowards.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They didn't, when I'm 2020 he attempted (and failed) a coup. If that wasn't your wake up call, I don't know what would be.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

hey now. McConnell furrowed his brow sternly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

I’m aware they aren’t going to do shit. My comment was more to put their self-pity in its proper context and to show that this situation is entirely of their own creation.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If Trump gets in, we set back the pro-life cause and free markets by a generation at least,'" Erickson revealed.

This guy is beyond naive. First thing Trump would do is go back on everything he said and all the republicans would do mental gymnastics to explain how it's all congruent and justified and nothing was a bold-faced lie to the American people. And then Trump would contradict them all by saying he was in fact lying and it's all part of a game that he's winning, and they'd all bend the knee. Fool me 398 times

[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think the World in general would be better off if Trump loses.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Question is......if Trump loses in 2024, does the GOP let him run AGAIN in 2028? Because I'd be fine if he keeps running, and keeps losing. And the 2028 race would presumably be against Harris. So I'd LOVE for him to lose twice to a black woman. Just because I know HE cares so much about gender and race, and it would be the one thing that would crush his poor little ego.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

They would ABSOLUTELY let him run again in '28 if he wanted to. They won't like it but those chickenshits are too cowardly to stand up to him. He is single handedly ruining the GOP and I'm here for it.

They used to be able to deny or explain away their racism, sexism, xenophobia, and corruption, but Trump has forced them to go full mask off. They can't deny it anymore and neither can anyone else who still calls themselves a Republican. I'm begging the universe to let this motherfucker run again.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

I strongly suspect his dementia-riddled brain will be too far gone for another run in 4 years. Hope so anyway.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Not just Trump, the entire GOP needs to take a serious, undeniable shellacking this election cycle. The sort of loss that forces them, and it won't be easy, to do some serious introspection regarding the future existence of their party. We will need to force them to lose so badly that they're toxicity is blatant, absolutely radioactive. At all levels from city dog catcher on up. If Harris/Walz doesn't have a sympathetic Congress they won't be able to pull our proverbial bacon out of the fire.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm crossing my fingers that Florida flips, because IF Florida flips there's a really good chance Texas flips too. At least I hope so, based on the trends in the polls. But then it'll be a real landslide 🌊

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

If that happens, Harris would probably win by a larger nationwide margin than Obama 2008. Not holding out for that.

It is interesting that Florida and Texas have about the same margin in polls, though.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yup. I'm no republican, but the country would be better if they jettison the rightmost christiofascist wing of the party to the fringe that they are.

Again not that I'm seeking it, but a more centrist "sane, sober" republican party would be a real challenge for centrist democrats to contend with.

It's like they're currently in a ketamine induced fugue state. Some day, maybe still a few years from now, the record is gonna stop and they'll realize the palin-jones-trump arc has run it's course.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Who is the Jones in the palin-jones-trump arc?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Thanks. He did cross my mind but didn't fit as a politician.

I ruled out Paula Jones pretty quickly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Is it weird that my mind went to Jim Jones? The cult leader who poisoned everyone with kool-aid?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

For.sure. I just kinda made it up ya know?

I feel like this wacky shit started when McCain brought on palin to fire up the base.

Jones aligned the crazy conspiracy theorists with a political group

Trump refined brand and method into a singular figure

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