The convention did one thing, at least. It convinced me to stay home if La Riva doesn't make it onto my state's ballot. I will not cosign genocide.
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I think this election will show a slow realignment of Arabs and Muslims toward Republicans.
Probably going to be a line between Arabs/Muslims who feel economically secure and those who don't. The racism and Islamaphobia are pretty well entrenched to the point of being foundational in the US right and I don't think that's ever going to change.
If its not economic what actually is there to attract Muslim or Arab voters to the Republican party or American conservatism?
Don't forget that fundamental Muslims are probably better aligned on social issues with Christian conservatives than liberals. Not a lot of lgbt rights in gaza.
All the DNC had to do was let a Palestinian-American speak at the convention. Just one. They could have hand picked the most friendly, least controversial speaker to ensure zero chances for any off message speech.
Yet instead they let Republicans speak.
The message is clear: "Shut the fuck up and vote for Democrats. We don't want your voices. This tent isn't big enough for you. What are you going to do, vote Republican? lol"
What are you going to do, vote Republican?
Just First Past the Post voting things
They could have hand picked the most friendly, least controversial speaker
Pretty sure I heard the speaker give their speech on some other outlet and it was pretty tame and lib. The speaker already was friendly uncontroversial.
She gave her speech outside the convention at the sit-in, and yeah, it wasn't like she was calling for the abolition of the so-called state of Israel or anything like that. But it doesn't matter to Democrats, they don't want to hear Palestinian voices at all. They just want their votes.
I agree. If the DNC had let the one person speak then no matter what all folks whos main issue is whats happening in israel and the us relationship thereof would totally now vote for them. Its as easy as that. That is all they want. /s
You're being sarcastic, but people wanted to pretend that Harris was not responsible for Biden's genocide and that she represented a change in policy. The uncommitted movement only asked for a single Palestinian-American and that would have satisfied them. Obviously it wouldn't satisfy all voters but it would satisfy that specific voter bloc.
I put sarcastic because it totally would not have satisfied the block. The comments would be about does the DNC having this one speaker think that is enough.
It wouldn't satisfy the entire anti-genocide bloc, but it would satisfy that specific movement of 700,000 voters because that's literally all they asked for. Why are you trying to make excuses for silencing Palestinian-American voices?
definately my bad. I was not speaking limiting to that movement. Im not trying to silence anyone but at the same time I find the screaming for something that is so complex is pointless. Tageted affairs like this are exactly the right way to go. I merely did not understand it. which can be another problem for a movement.
I don't know what can be done about it. Trump wouldn't be better for Palestinians, so voting for president doesn't help. Most of the Congress people who were vocally pro Palestine have been removed from their races by AIPAC money.
Who exactly can I vote for that would help the situation? Serious question.
Spend all that time on passing electoral reform in your state so people are free to vote 3rd party with zero chance of a spoiler effect.
Shouldn't be to hard to convince democrats, they support democracy right?
Vote for the least bad options. Sometimes you don't get everything you want but don't let things get worse if you can (they can always get worse).
“Evil is Evil. Lesser, greater, middling… Makes no difference. The degree is arbitary. The definition’s blurred. If I’m to choose between one evil and another… I’d rather not choose at all.” - Andrzej Sapkowski
That's the plan. I do my research on all the candidates I'm presented with and vote in the primaries / local elections.
I'm just sad that I'm losing hope for this issue.
Or just, voting 3rd party or leaving it blank? Dumbass liberals who think the only other option is to vote for the even rather right party infuriate me.
Dumbass liberals who think the only other option is to vote for the even rather right party infuriate me.
If liberals were concerned, they have always had the ability to change the voting system in the states they control. Ranked choice would allow voters to make the democrats number 2, 3, 4, 5, whatever so that they could still get those votes even if their number 1 pick was elsewhere.
Maybe the democrats aren't actually concerned about republicans gaining control over the nation state.
Some people don’t know that Muslim and Arab voters voted for George W. Bush in 2000.
Yeah but none of them did in 2004. The anti Muslim rhetoric from the right isn't as bad as it was then but it's definitely getting worse every day