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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

China is state run capitalism. So a tale of two flavors of one system?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Neither country is state-run capitalism. And anyway, state capitalism is an oxymoron when a state has fiat monetary sovereignty—which the US and China do. Such a state has no need to make a profit, which is foundational to capitalism, because it can and does create as much money as it pleases. You don’t have to take my word for it, you can take Alan Greenspan’s.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

China is not state run capitalism, but I guess western libs will never stop repeating it in face of all evidence to the contrary.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

It's true but without the US, Europe would be part of China or Russia... So...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

ugh, did i accidentally join a tankie community

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Nice argument, can you back it up with a source?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

NATOpedia says "nearly 400 military interventions" for the US, listing this as the source.

China's is likely referring to the Korean war or the Vietnam war. So it should probably be 2 ig, though for Korea China was firmly on the right side of history.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

there was that brief spat with Vietnam over Cambodia

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Still not a good look for the U S of A lol

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

All this shows is that these two countries disagree fundamentally on how to conduct diplomacy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

It also overlooks that China has historically been conquered by outside forces as its leadership grew weak. And the Communist party was having enough trouble internally feeding its people and causing issues like the "break four olds" period that there was little ability to wage effective war.

Let's also not forget the the communists literally aided the Japanese in the rape of Nanking as it helped to undermine the GuoMinDang.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Do you think this is because the leadership is magically nicer for some reason, or because their political/economic system is better able to stay out of conflict?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And the respective political systems of these two countries obviously play no role in this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

War isn't political, obviously