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A small trial from the Cleveland Clinic is the first head-to-head analysis of how erythritol affects cardiovascular risks compared with sugar.

Archived version: https://archive.ph/5yESq

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Something has to be wrong with artificial sweeteners based on how they taste

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A lot of artificial sweeteners fuck around with the insulin response from memory

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The statement is partially true. Some artificial sweeteners, such as sucralose and aspartame, have been shown in certain studies to affect insulin response. However, the effect can vary depending on the sweetener, the individual, and the context (e.g., whether consumed with other foods). The evidence is mixed, and not all artificial sweeteners have been proven to significantly impact insulin levels.

Overall, while there may be some effects on insulin response, it's not a uniform response across all artificial sweeteners or individuals.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Did I say "all artificial sweeteners" and "all individuals"?

LLM-ass response over two paragraphs to say "yeah that's basically true"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have a fairly healthy diet, with little risk of diabetes, but sweeteners screw my digestion up. They are now in so many things that it’s hard to avoid them, especially in soft drinks and mixers. For the rest of the world that doesn’t eat an American diet, the balance of the risk presented by sugar vs diabetes is not as one-sided as all that

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, when they do a study of more than 20 people, maybe I’ll pay attention. Until then, I’ll bet that study money can be traced back to big sugar.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

There are loads of those. Like tons, from all around the world. “Big sugar” really, really isn’t much of a thing outside the us, and a lot of these studies are either data-aggregation from larger groups of studies, like this one, or studies over long periods of large groups, like most of those referenced in that article, particularly those covering Coronado and kidney disease.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I hate artificial sweeteners. They taste worse than suger.

Some people can just drink a glass of normal, no diet, soda once in a while. Rather have some sugar containing soda once every 4-5 days. Some people can moderate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I avoid erythritol because you have to use so much of it. With something like aspartame it's so much sweeter than sugar per gram that even if it all converted to formaldehyde a few sodas would be nothing to worry about. But erythritol is 30% less sweet than sugar so they put a bunch in. And the full effects of a bunch of a not-very-metabolized substance haven't been well-enough studied for me to not just get some other fake sugar thing instead.

As the other commenter said, though, this study had very small N.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

n=20. This is wayyyy too small a study to draw conclusions beyond "more research required".

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago

If you were actually versed in statistics and designing scientific studies, you would know that is a perfectly acceptable sample size.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ngl if artificial sweeteners also turn out to be bad for you, i'll just cut out the last bit of sugar-free sodas i still drink and switch to water. No way am I going to go back to sodas with sugar.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

There’s always seltzer!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

TLDR: it’s erythritol.