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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh, is this why they want to ban porn? "Every sperm is scared" sort of thing?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

What are they scared of? I assume life.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Just do what you did in the past. Bring in a bunch of foreigners.

That's how most of the whites got to North America.... By boat.

I could say the same about the Africans, but their circumstances were less.... Voluntary.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

You know they really want "slavery" to win out and come back as an option. Crippling debt can only go so far, and can't really force people to be their servants. The trick is to devalue the value of life, also known as having more babies but more traditionally known as overpopulation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

In my home country, Portugal, with a per-capita GDP (PPP) which is a bit more than half that of the US (though less unequal, so the median isn't quite as bad) which is a safe and very touristic EU country, there is a huge house prices bubble a large component of which is foreign "investors" so prices have been pulled totally out of reach for most locals.

The impact on birth rates was huge since people are leaving their parent's homes much later (average was at 34 last I checked), getting married later, having children later, having fewer children (as they can't afford a bigger house and kids are expensive) and, worse, young people have been leaving in droves (for example, half of University graduates just leave the country, especially since by being in the EU they have freedom to live and work anywhere in it).

Worse, the country already had the or one of the most aged populations in Europe, so this is going to fuck the country up big time in 10 to 20 years' time, as even if the country imports immigrants to make up for the population shortfall, they're not going to have the same average qualifications as the ones leaving (plus the country spending almost €100k per university graduate in their Education to get them there only to lose half of them and replace them with people with half as much schooling is ridiculously bad political management), especially considering that the kind of immigrants with higher education in in-demand areas can generally get work visas to pretty much anywhere and won't be coming here.

All of that shit was incentivised by politicians in several ways, most notably Golden Visas in exchange for €500k housing "investments" and a refusal to properly regulate AirBnBs (so for example in Lisbon 10% of residential units became AirBnBs), so this kind of bullshit we see in this meme is exactly what we've been getting, the latest measure being giving tax benefits for young people to buy houses, which does nothing to address excessive house prices (in fact Economically such incentives tend to hold up and even pump up prices) and hilariously given their average salaries a Portuguese youth would be far better off moving to next door Spain paying full taxes there than staying here even with those tax benefits (and if they went further away their salary could treble or even quadruple).

It's interesting to see that in this Portugal was just ahead of the trend and the same kind of problem is starting to happen in wealthier nation which for example are unlikelly to suffer from a braindrain.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It takes a village and they took away the village. Two working spouses can’t raise children on their own.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I mean you can, you just have no life.

Source: My life.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

*Republicans struggling to solve the declining population crisis.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Declining population

Looks inside

9 billion people

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Old enough to remember people screaming their heads off about Overpopulation. But that was always overpopulation in non-white countries. China had an overpopulation problem. India had an overpopulation problem. Nigeria had an overpopulation problem. Mexico had an overpopulation problem.

Texas never had an overpopulation problem. It just had an illegal immigrant problem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I don’t know if this really applies here. While lack of a living wage blocks many choices in life, is there anything specific for kids?

If you want more kids (and we do), you need to make those choices easier.

  • paid paternal/maternal leave
  • affordable universal healthcare
  • affordable childcare
  • affordable housing
  • pre-k education - why is this not public school?
  • school lunches - not just to help feed a family but to simplify getting multiple people ready in the morning, yay Massachusetts
  • affordable college - a handful of states are fixing this, yay Massachusetts, but what about the rest?

I know that’s more complicated than simply a living wage, but we’ve built a society that makes children more difficult, in many ways. If we want to encourage kids, we need to stop doing that

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

As a new father myself, enjoying a long 6w long paid leave, can't help but to think S W E D E N, S W E D E N, S W E D E N. With that said, I definitely agree. We didn't have to consider any of those points as we decided to have our child, only if we as individuals were ready.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why do we want more kids? Obviously we need some, but why is a population decline a bad thing?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Look at Korea, look at Japan. Look at China. Low birth rates can easily get “stuck” at low rates by social and generational inertia. You can’t just tell people to have more kids but it can take generations to change habits. Think of it like melting ice sheets: by the time the problem is apparent, it may be a tipping point where you just can’t recover. It will be informative to see what happens to China especially. They very rapidly went from the most populated country to stabilizing, and soon to drop, potentially quickly. It’s done a great job of bringing its citizens into the modern era very quickly but part of that was based on immense labor advantage. What happens when they don’t have cheap labor, when retiring people suddenly outnumber workers, when they don’t have enough children to keep schools open, when they can’t afford the infrastructure built to support a billion people? Picture Detroit, but at the scale of China. Detroit is finally recovering but it took a long time to get this far

It’s easy to argue that a smaller population would be better, especially in some of the more crowded or overtaxed regions, but a suddenly smaller or much smaller would clearly not be. For me, I’m afraid of economic disruption leading to misery and violence. But most of all I’m afraid of losing humanity’s future. Science, technology, innovation, arts, are all positive values that accelerate with larger populations. We don’t want to drop far enough or fast enough to lose those. We don’t want to be stuck in stagnation and never figuratively grow

US, specifically, has room and resources for many more people. Aside from our profligate resource usage, we can have more, in contrast with more crowded populations that are already beyond local carrying capacity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This isn't meant as a brag, but me and my wife focused on our work and had kids later in life. I fully respect those that don't want kids, but my daughter is the best thing to ever happen to me, and despite having great salaries for my country I still often worry about childcare costs, leaving my child in subpar daycare, who will look after her in case of accidents, places to live where she'll be safe, etc. This is from a position of privilege, so I have absolutely no idea how people manage without the privilege that has been afforded to me.

It feels like for many the choice to not have children is one of practicality, and that is the most criminal aspect of modern life. Again, fully respect those that don't want kids, but for those that do that simply cannot do so because despite contributing to society through full-time work they fear an inability to safely raise a child - while billionaire cunts swan along with megayachts and a dozen homes across the world.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Same here. Having kids is the best part of my life but it hasn’t been easy. I also had kids later so we were established in a home and with two well above average incomes, so we were better prepared for it than most people are. But it’s tough. We got through that and successfully raised two kids we can be proud of, although now we’re fighting the final boss: college expenses.

Honestly, I don’t know how people without our level of privilege do it: society creates challenges at every turn to block you from doing your best for them. How can we be surprised that few people choose that?

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