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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17956865

'It is time for this war to end,' Harris tells Netanyahu; 'I will not be silent' on Palestinian suffering

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

to all the people saying talk is cheap, calm down champs. she is not the president yet, she is still a part of the Biden administration and anything she does likely needs to be vetted by them. by saying such she accepts losing the support of certain lobbies which will give her more independence and leeway during her presidency I think. words matter more than you think, especially at the brink of an election, when pretty powerful organizations expect you to say things in a certain way.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

God damn she might actually start to regain the trust of the Arab American Midwest communities that have recently been crucial to winning the election. It’s nice to have someone with a more modern and balanced stance. It’s not perfect, but it’s a LOT further in the direction of good than Biden on that point.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (15 children)

Talk is cheap. Do something to show you really mean it.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (17 children)

After a public letter condemning all protesters.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Talk is cheap. Prove it and earn voters.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

She didn't attend Bibi's Congressional political rally (it was mainly for the majority of Israelis who want Bibi gone), which is unusual for her. Then she punctuates her meeting with Bibi with this. Maybe it's just rhetoric. She will need to outline what sorts of consequences she's willing to impose on Israel.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago

Lmao, sure, okay Jan. This is gonna be the same velvet-lined kid-glove bullshit Brandon handled Bibi with. Nothing will come of this, they'll still be butchering come this time next month. No support for Democrats until the materiel stops flowing and until Israel is cut off like the malignant tumor it is.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago

So she'll have no problem cutting the Israeli tumor off, right? Right???

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

When it comes to a high ranking member of the administration that's enabled this genocide, I'll believe it when I see it

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Stop sending them the munitions and money that cause the suffering and maybe we'll believe you

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

That reminds me of one interview with a random Israeli, I think a politician. Her attitude toward the US was one of "stop telling us what to do big guy." It was so utterly bizarre to read that. Yeah, don't tell us what to do, but do give us the weapons to do it with! Also, constantly shield us for any consequences from the international community!

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Lol mixed messaging. You literally just condemned people protesting him coming to the US

Do you think we're this stupid?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Protests themselves often tend to be less popular than the causes they promote. Politically it can make sense to distance from a protest, but still align with a cause itself that is more popular

It's strange, but ultimately the cause itself is what matters here

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Do you agree with her condemnation of hamas, and support for netanyahu?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

She's lying to both parties. This is hypocrisy, and its discrediting.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Unless you only hear the lie intended for you. Trump is a master at this sort of thing. Maybe Harris is a better politician than we think.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

biaoqing-copium it's all blahblahblah political theater until she actually turns off the unlimited arms & money spigot. until then I don't care what she says. as far as I'm concerned she's just as complicit in this genocide as Biden

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was going to vote Dem no matter what.

But I have multiple friends who weren't, solely because of Israel-Palestine (they weren't voting trump either, they were either going to abstain or write-in...useless)

But this has turned them around and, at least in my small circle, is meaningful.

Fingers crossed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They got dissuaded just hours after the news released and only platitudes given? Yikes

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah, no one had ever even heard of Kamala Harris before a week ago, and she has no track record to speak of, so all we know about her are platitudes from the past few days /s

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Its glorious to see Bibi fly all the way here for the dems to turn him into a basket for Kamala to dunk on.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm sure he'll think real hard about what he's done on the way home. Maybe even dry his tears with the truckloads of money and munitions Harris is complicit in handing him without reservation to commit genocide with.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In the past she had also wanted to be more vocal in previous speeches but it had seen it get watered down by the Biden administration. I think she will push for more than Biden ever did/will

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Oh wow… ngl I am looking forward to hearing more from her. I know this is partially me being silly, but my vibe is weirdly slightly similar to 2008? Like, I know I'm probably just being overly optimistic, but at the same time… if she is now taking the gloves off because she’s gonna be the top dog… this is gonna be really interesting and potentially awesome to watch.

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