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Antinatalism Rule (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 5 months ago (4 children)

you do understand that the joker is in the wrong here, right? like in this scene he's a mentally i'll man saying that killing people is funny.

if you genuinely believe that existence has an inherent negative value then i strongly suggest you seek help, and i don't mean that to be facetious. antinatalism is depression turned into a moral philosophy, it posits itself as a solution to suffering by offering an unrealizable future, but really it's an excuse to not even attempt to make the world better.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Memes are generally divorced from their original source. This format is only used to show the creator has a controversial idea.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Oh boy, you guys are gonna love the global pension fund crash then!

Which shouldn't be a problem, but with how abjectly you guys reject AI and automation, it is gonna be a problem

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, as if automation was never used to cut jobs in order to enrich the wealthy class and the working class didn't get any of the benefits. /s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cool I guess we'll all just die then.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

I was a mild antinatalist for a while. Personally wanted kids, but felt the world was too broken to pass to a new generation that didn't ask for it.

And then -- I know this sounds dumb, but whatever -- I played Horizon: Zero Dawn.

Parenthood in a time of armageddon is a central theme, and it's not subtle about it. Every story element is named in a way that alludes to either parenthood or annihilation. The overarching plot describes the moral challenges of...

spoiler

...planning a next generation of humans to rise from the ashes, thousands of years after the previous generation went extinct. They died to an AI catastrophe, but it works just as well as an allegory for climate change.

Is it ethical to even subject a new generation to this, knowing what we know about how we fucked things up? If we're gonna try, do we have a duty to put in a kill switch in case things go off the rails again?

Obviously, the game sides firmly with the new humans, but it doesn't dismiss these questions out-of-hand, and it's okay with ambiguity and hypocrisy even on the part of Project Zero Dawn's chief architect.

The ending scene still gets me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFJ_vSCJdO0

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