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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I'm European so obviously anti trump (I've learnt a lot about politicians that used similar rhetoric, had a different personal cult around them, also tried overthrowing the state - history repeats when not learning from it) but damn, Biden was bad. I'd still vote for Biden simply to avoid trump, but I fear he has no chance to get >50% after that performance.

The democrats hopefully see the writing on the wall and replace him before it's too late.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As bad as Biden was, CNN were worse. Fuck that shitty network for allowing Trump to lie pretty much nonstop for 90 minutes unchallenged.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (9 children)

they gave both people plenty of time, biden is supposed to be capable of challenging on his own

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I disagree. Trump indulged in a gish gallop of lies and bullshit. Biden spent too much time trying to refute some of it and in doing so wasted time which he could've used to make his own points.

There should've been moderation in place to stop this, there was none.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

It wasn't a great debate, but I've had a brainfart when talking too before.

Also, the policy is what matters. What matters is also that Biden obviously was doing the right thing. Just because he doesn't scream at people doesn't mean he's not a good choice still.

Whereas Trump was clearly obviously lying constantly

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The real travesty was CNN here. There was no fact checking or the slightest attempt to keep them on topic.

I'd vote for a wet park bench over Trump. Biden was and still is the "Not Trump" candidate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Trump wouldn't have agreed if the mods were going to been anything but prompt readers

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago

When Jon Stewart referred to Biden's expression as resting 25th amendment face. 💀

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