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Proton VPN now available without creating an account (Android) (lemmy.world)

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from the team:

Hi everyone,

As you may know, Proton VPN has repeatedly proven effective anti-censorship tools, allowing people to find trustworthy news sources and access obstructed content.

To make Proton VPN’s anti-censorship features even more accessible, we made it possible to log in to the Android app without creating an account. Now you can log in and use the Proton VPN Android app for free without entering any credentials (i.e. you can “continue as guest”):

Together with the constant expansion of our infrastructure (over 6000 servers in close to 100 countries), we believe that this will help our privacy-first VPN service reach those who need it the most more efficiently than ever.

Thank you for your support,

The Proton Team

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I really love all of the proton products...

Except their VPN. I'm sorry, but their servers trip CAPTCHAs and cloud flare warnings more than 95% of the time for me no matter where I connect from. I really wish it wasn't like that because it makes the Internet fucking awful to use

Mullvad will just keep getting my 5/month on top of my proton sub, I guess...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

You guys rock - keep it up and I'll keep supporting

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is proton vpn working in china? Im travelling there soon.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Tldr, probably not. Proton has an article saying no, but that article is older than their new Stealth protocol which was built to work better in anti-vpn environments.

I would also read this article which has some information you may find useful.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Does Proton VPN not work in China? I’m trying to use it for the first time on iPhone, both directly and via my already-known-good VPN (Mullvad) but I can’t get the first connection to make an account started either way.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You need to go to settings and under protocol select stealth. The other connection types are blocked in China.

Mullvad doesn't work here at all.

The most widespread one is Astrill, though it's quite pricey. Used to be the only one that works consistently; but Proton is a decent alternative.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hmm, thank you for the info! I can’t get to settings though as I can’t get past the account setup stage, I’ll try to sign up on desktop.

For your trivia, Mullvad works great for me in China, better than Astrill these days. I use and test multiple just to know and have backups.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Proton Desktop is not linked to your phone in any way, so enabling stealth there doesn't have any impact on your device unfortunately.

Interesting to hear about Mullvad, maybe they did change the protocol around! My backup had always been Windscribe, they give you 10 GB traffic for free, but the reliability in China went downhill over the last year.

But my days are numbered now anyway, will be out end of July, and still got Astrill prepaid until November or so, so not going to experiment too much now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Cool cool, everyone is leaving, sigh… thanks for the info!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Another feature yet still no flatpak support

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

flatpak for something as low level as a VPN is just not a great use case. I say that as a huge proponent of flatpak.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Why

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Remember if a service is free then YOU are the product.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Remember: You aren't paying for your lemmy.world account so you're totally a product!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Yep

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I'm feeling a bit cynical about this as well, despite their great reputation. Free never really means free in 2024. There's always a catch...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is not the case with Proton. Paid subscriptions effectively subsidize free users.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They also subsidise the CEOs salary. And when him, his successor or someone else high up in the company decides that's not enough for them, that treasure trove of consumer information is going to be awfully tempting to sell if they aren't already.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And how are they supposed to sell consumer information that's end-to-end-encrypted?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Are you aware you dont need to understand the actual data to build data on a consumer. Even when its end-to-end encrypted proton still know your IP, the IP you're trying to access, number of packets (data size) your online times etc.

So while they cant read your facebook messages, they know how often, and at what times you use facebook messenger, netflix, youtube etc. And they can turn that into a profile on you that they can sell.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Proton recently became a non-profit organisation.

This commitment means that they work for the people.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh my sweet summer child.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you also use the same argument for libre software?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Comparing a completely offline software to a VPN that literally routes all your internet traffic through their own servers is completely apples to oranges.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Fair enough. My only gripe was with that umbrella statement. You are right that with these perpetually online SaaS companies, one must carefully assess their threat models

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Based

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Huge fan of Proton and their services. I use the VPN and two Proton email accounts. Very helpful, easy to use, and the free versions aren't horrible garbage.

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