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Is anyone here a migrant, or thinking of becoming one? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Are you someone who has left their country of birth to move and settle somewhere else, or who is thinking of doing so in the future? What led you to take that decision, or what is making you consider it? What have your experiences been until now, and what do you expect and hope for in the future?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I live in Texas and I live with my grandparents, but due to the ridiculous goings-on and the deeper descent into an even bigger fascist shithole that the U.S. undergoes day by day, I've been seriously considering and talking with my family more and more about somehow eventually moving to China.

I'm multiracial Latino and my grandparents are mixed German and Hispanic, and I really hope that one day we can muster enough money/resources to move to China, if staying and fighting for socialism ends up being a lost cause in the U.S. I really hope it won't be, and I barely know where to even begin planning this, but I consider it more by the day.

The problem is that I'm disabled and my grandparents are in their 70's, and we barely make enough money to pay the bills, let alone save up to move and buy a home in an entire country through an extremely long process.

For what it's worth, my grandparents are hardcore communist sympathizers, and while they agree the task is daunting, they haven't voiced any opposition to moving to China.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah about that... I'm also from the US and poor and my partner is disabled. We've looked into emigrating to China, and unfortunately the chance of success is basically zero for your average person.

There are only a few ways to become a permanent resident of China (that I'm aware of):

Be the spouse of a Chinese national
Have permanent employment in China
Be a dependent of a Chinese citizen/perm. resident
Be an investor

Out of these, #1 is the most feasible for your average person. Of course, there could be a quite few ethical problems in this scenario depending on how it plays out.

#2 requires the person to be deemed highly-specialized and irreplaceable in their sponsored work visa job in order to be considered for permanent employment. These are usually tech, engineering, etc. Basically specialized jobs that are in demand in the US will likely also be in demand in China.

#3 doesn't apply.

For #4, I think the minimum investment is $500k USD. So that's a no go for most people.

And on top of this, you have to provide your medical record and I'm not sure how a disability would affect your ability to become a resident.

And of course, in all these cases, this only applies to you personally. I'm not sure if there is a feasible way for your grandparents to emigrate to China.

Also, most of this is pretty similar to most countries I've looked into so you'll continually run into the same problems. I've more or less resigned myself to my fate in this fascist shithole.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Have a look at the requirements for getting work in Hong Kong. Ironically so many expat libs are fleeing here so there might even be more opportunities for foreign workers who aren't scared of red flags ☭

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you mean using HK as a stepping stone?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Not sure stepping stone is the right word. It'd be a several years-long step. But healthcare is good here, education is decent and affordable, and (sadly) there's still a lot of anglophilia that will make life easier.

I would not recommend seeking refugee status in HK (noticed one of your other comments having that idea for CN). If you go that route, go straight to China. HK treats its refugees like shit (although, again, probably not so bad if you're white).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

You don't necessarily need a permanent resident status. I'm not sure post-covid, but foreigners that emigrated to China usually do that on a work visa that they could get renewed as often as they needed.

The difficult part would be getting a job as China's workforce is rapidly becoming more educated, but they're still looking for English teachers (although you need a diploma now, not like in the 90s where they would hire anybody off the streets lol) -- it's probably easier to get into private schools.

Permanent residence status usually opens you up to some more administrative leeway which China is careful about giving out, but compared to other countries, a visa in China will carry you a long way.