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Vimms lair is starting to remove many roms that are being requested to be removed by Nintendo etc. soon many original roms, hacks, and translations will be lost forever. Can any of you help make archive torrents of roms from vimms lair and cdromance? They have hacks and translations that dont exist elsewhere and will probably be removed soon with ios emulation and retro handhelds bringing so much attention to roms and these sites

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

Let's start mirroring and torrenting full ROMsets!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

A friend of mine and I put this together a few years ago. I hope yall find it helpful:

#!/usr/bin/env bash

download_roms(){
    for ((i=$1; i<=$2; i++)); do
        cd "$HOME/retroarch"
        curl  -G -L "https://download3.vimm.net/download/?mediaId=$i" -H 'User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:109.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/110.0' -H 'Referer: https://vimm.net/' -O  -J
    done
}

choose_system(){
printf "\n============================================"
printf "\n NOTE: This Script has not been fully tested"
printf "\n       It may not work as expected"
printf "\n============================================\n"
printf "Download roms for which systems?
    1. NES
    2. SNES
    3. GameBoy
    4. N64
    5. GameCube
    6. Sega Genesis
    7. Playstation1-2
    8. Playstation Portable
    0. All\n : "

read -r system
    case $system in
        "1") download_roms 3      981    "NES";;
        "2") download_roms 983    1770   "SNES";;
        "3") download_roms 2955   5932   "GameBoy";;
        "4") download_roms 2465   2761   "N64";;
        "5") download_roms 7461   7634   "GameCube";;
        "6") download_roms 1771   2464   "Sega Genesis";;
        "7") download_roms 6071   9894   "Playstation1-2";;
        "9") download_roms 23991  23973  "Playstation Portabale";;
        "0") download_roms 1      100000 "All";;
    esac
}

mkdir -p "$HOME/retroarch"
choose_system
[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (10 children)

Thank you for the awesomeness that is the script. If I might ask a question: why is the user agent Windows 10 if this is a bash script? I'm genuinely curious and I don't know why.I imagine this might be WSL. You did mention it was an old script so maybe it had something to do with that?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Would it be feasible to have/create something similar on I2P?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

As soon as I heard about the emulator stuff I grabbed some archive torrents to seed overall more then 5 tb. All WII DS 3DS and SWITCH roms so they aren't gone if you have the space to join seeding pm me and I'll send you the magnet links because there are like only 5 seeder and a lot of leecher

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Hai, I might be able to help. I also have some more retro systems if you want

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

We need explicit legislation against this type of behavior.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago (5 children)

The whole point of IP laws (according to the Constitution of the United States) is to develop a robust public domain. Every registered idea, multiplied by every limited rights extention is a violation of public interest and public rights.

By burying or failing to preserve content, they are in fact stealing from the public, since we won't be able to access it when it is our right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Where are IP laws mentioned in the constitution?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

It wouldn't be too hard to go through every archived game and determine if it's still available through corporate means or not. Those are the ones that are threatened to be erased forever if corpos get their way. The biggest problem is the money and means to fight against corporate goons and lawyers.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Someone should present this to some progressive legislative body so that we can develop a safe haven for archiving games.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well there is the Stop Killing Games initiative started by Ross Scott and supported by the Pirate Parties. If they succeed, companies selling games in recent years will be required to either keep supporting their game or to make it available in a way so that others can ensure its continued support.

When this is achieved the step to free older games is small.

If you live in Europe you have the chance to support the movement by vote in the upcoming elections.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

I've been keeping a close eye on it. He said something along the lines of "If you live in the US and the ToS of a piece of software said the publishers could come and shoot your dog, you'd have to prove that they broke some other law, like animal cruelty, to sue them successfully if they shot your dog." I'm curious to see how companies react if they get a mandate from the EU to preserve games.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

VIMM's Lair has been around for ages... If Nintendo really cared why didn't they do something around, say, 2002? 🤔

Why is there no statute of limitations on this kinda bullshit?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that's a good argument. In a more general case, if you didn't pursue your rights 10 years ago that doesn't mean you can't get your shit together and do it today. Maybe you've lost some of what you deserved but you still should get future benefits.

As for statue of limitations, if it keeps happening today then it doesn't matter when it started. They could only talk about things that happened in the past year - it's still being hosted and shared.

To be clear, I'm not taking Nintendo's side, all efforts to preserve these games are amazing and I love to see everyone keep it up :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's more the fact that actual crimes can be nullified by a statute of limitations, but shit like this doesn't seem to have any expiration date

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If someone shared ROMs 20 years ago and stopped, Nintendo wouldn't be able to do anything about it today. The statute of limitations does apply.

But if someone started sharing ROMs 20 years ago, and continued doing it every day until today, then that means they shared ROMs yesterday. The "crime" still happened yesterday.

Edit: but they care a lot more about preventing it from happening tomorrow.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I recommend switching to Myrient! Has been my source for quite some time now, because Vimms was just to slow for me.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Please also post on the filehoarder subreddit.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

[email protected]? Or is there one on another instance?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

I guess he means the subreddit in reddit : https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I have some sets for early systems. Find romsets on other sites. Store them and make your own torrents, working on one but its currently broken

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Damn...Vimms Lair was my favorite, friggin Nintendo doing what it does best...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

vimms lair was where i first played seiken densetu 3 back in 2000 when it wasn't available anywhere

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

At least vimms lair still has xbox roms. Pretty hard to come by compared to nintendo roms.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They should still be on myrient, not?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For now. Myrient doesnt use torrents either so when Nintendo comes for them the files are gone

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is there a way to download their entire archive?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The site says 200tb, and I'm mostly interested in the nes, SNES and genesis archive. I've got archives of every game made for those already, but I don't have every mod and such. Those archives are very small, the nes one is a few hundred megabytes. I'm guessing most of that big number is ps1, 2 and n64 games. I'd probably be interested in archiving those as well but I think the old pre 3d console games are probably worth saving more, since not many people have copies.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is this because of the HD PC port recompilation posts of Majora's Mask etc? Sigh.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

No it’s because all the Apple emulator users being reckless as fuck, flocking to the site all at once to try games they could have emulated on PC for decades now…

[–] [email protected] 69 points 5 months ago (4 children)

There are already torrents containing collections of all the games from old systems. What there needs to be is an "official" collection torrent for each system that archivists can store and seed individually

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Every time I see this news (Reddit or Lemmy) I see this kind of comment, but I wonder, what if I want to download just a ROM of a few mbs? I certainly don't want to hoard the whole collection, as a torrent user I believe I can just pick up the file (if it isn't zipped), but wouldn't that be against the torrent's moral code?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But most (all?) Torrent clients let you select which files you want to download so of there was an official unarchived torrent then archivists could seed forever and others could select the ROMs/manuals/etc. that they wanted

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (6 children)

And this way we will get uncompleted seeds and in the further future nobody will be able to complete the damn torrent.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't think that's an issue. Downloading a partial is a problem on private trackers since there are so few users, but on a public tracker, someone downloading a partial is just making the swarm a bit more robust: they are sharing connections details to other users in the swarm and are able to partially seed part of the content.

Hit & run torrent users are the bigger problem; they add nothing to the ecosystem. But, for example, if there's a "complete early roms for all systems nointro unzipped" torrent, and someone only downloads and seeds the SNES section, then the swarm gets the benefit of someone sharing that section of the content.

You could even get a situation where there are no "seeds" but 100% availability, with different people sharing different sections.

I'm not fully looped in to why Anna's Archive did what they did, but their massive 1TB+ torrent zips are pretty useless for most purposes. I'd be happy to download a partial and seed books in, say, a particular genre, but I'm not going to seed a partial of a massive zip file that's useless to me without the full archive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Amd those H&R users are exactly why it wont work.
Maybe a popular archive will stay alive by the few voluntary seeders but I believe the seed woll be dead.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you know where I can find them? I will seed them all

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

There arent ones that include hacks and fan translations. For example PSP games like monster hunter portable 2nd G with the FUComplete patch or Monster Hunter Portable 3rd G with the English Patch v5

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Whoever runs it must have all of that stored locally, too, no?

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