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Hi everyone!

Today I tried to install KDE alongside Gnome to give it a try on Fedora on something else than a virtual machine.

For a reason I can't understand, the terminal couldn't finish the installation of KDE as something failed. Despite all of this, all the KDE apps were installed and Plasma is appearing as an option on the login screen under Gnome and Gnome Classic. Still I couldn't launch KDE plasma and nothing was happening after typing my login.

I took it as a sign that KDE isn't for me, especially because I'm 99% happy with Gnome.

So I removed KDE via the terminal and the remaining apps via the software center. Sadly, there is one app called "Centre de bienvenue" or "Welcome center" from KDE that I can't remove. Nothing is happening when I try removing it.

I tried removing it via the terminal, but when I type "dnf list installed" I can't find it as there are too many packages. Could anyone help me?

I also tried « dnf list installed » with the words « welcome », « bienvenue », « kde » and « plasma ».

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

The name of the pkg is plasma-welcome now you can use dnf to delete it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Sudo dnf remove plasma-welcome removed the package but it's still appearing as intalled in the package center. I'm gonna try rebooting and see if it solves the issue...

Edit: rebooting solved the issue so thanks a lot!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Okay thanks I’m gonna try that package name as soon as I can get in front on of this computer. Let’s hope it works.

I’ll keep you posted.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This does indeed directly solve OP's original problem, but it does not answer the question of why GNOME Software isn't working as it should.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I’d guess because the metadata says it’s required for KDE, so cannot be removed. The UI should show that probably.

https://github.com/KDE/plasma-welcome/blob/master/org.kde.plasma-welcome.appdata.xml

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, hard dependencies that are not actually hard dependencies.

That package may just be protected.

@OP to actually help you it would be really smart to record the issue you had when installing. Maybe SDDM setting up alongside GNOME or something?

KDE on Fedora works really well, but mixing the apps was a pain in the past, may not be anymore as the KDE Devs deal with GNOME being GNOME by just packing the needed icons into every app.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I had heard that having two DE installed could cause problems, but when I checked https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/switching-desktop-environments/ I didn't see any warning so I tried.

I guess, if I really wanna try KDE outside of a virtual machine, I'm gonna do a Clonezilla backup of my Gnome Fedora installation and wipe everything before starting on a fresh KDE installation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Technically, if you would have been on Fedora Atomic, you could have just rebased to the Kinoite branch. Perhaps even created a new user so your home folder doesn't get populated by unwanted stuff. And, afterwards, you could rebase back to whatever your original branch was.

Furthermore, downloading any distro that defaults to KDE and offers a live environment should be able to offer you a KDE experience within the live environment as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You might try to just swap the groups

sudo dnf group remove "WorkstationSomething"
sudo dnf group install "Plasma Desktop"

Or something, I dont use traditional Fedora anymore and only used it for a a few weeks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I ain’t gonna try anything anymore, as I feel like I dodged a bullet and could have broken my precious installation.

That is unless I grow tired of Gnome one day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Swapping some packages really shouldnt be a problem.

But learn how to do BTRFS system snapshota before.

Also, discussion.fedoraproject.org