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Those of us that have undergone autism-specific therapy or training to learn to socialize better, what lessons did you learn? (lemmy.world)
submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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I think it would be interesting to share lessons we've learned about socializing that didn't come natural to us like they do for NTs.

  • What social difficulties did you have, and what did you learn to compensate for them?

  • Also, since there's a difference between autistic and NT cultures, what lessons did you learn about socializing with NTs and in NT environments?

Infodumps are welcomed! 😁

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

My children have received autism-specific therapy and learned key NT social skills from it. I am happy to share my understanding of their experience, but I would ask permission first since this question was directed at autistic people and my official role in the family as dad and husband is being "the most neurotypical one."

Edit to add: they have learned skills that help them navigate life, including life in a NT dominant world. I hesitate to label them as NT skills because they are used by my autistic children and maybe the actual skill is approached differently, but that is probably pedantic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

These things come to mind at the moment:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role_reversal How would I judge a situation from another person's perspective? It helped me to understand why others react strange to me.

Learning to really accept myself and to stop judging myself helped me to build some confidence. Which in turn helps to handle (or survive) situations which ask to much from me.

Learning to listen to myself. If I feel, that I don't want to do something, I don't have to. Not now, maybe later, OK?

And of course: Trial and error. It worked fine before. Maybe it can be useful in the future. :)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Learning to really accept myself and to stop judging myself helped me to build some confidence. Which in turn helps to handle (or survive) situations which ask to much from me.

Learning to listen to myself. If I feel, that I don’t want to do something, I don’t have to. Not now, maybe later, OK?

I like these two a lot. Congrats!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Thanks. :)

The problem was: learning self acceptance started to make sense to me after the first few steps. It didn't make sense to me at the beginning even though I thought that I get it.
... if that makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3828370-political-savvy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People

Star trek

It was a rocky road, but I got there in the end

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Could you elaborate on the lessons you have learned from those resources pls?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Looking at people and their intrinsic motivations desires and goals as a basis for conversations

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Looking at people and their intrinsic motivations desires

How to do this pls? One of my autistic traits is that I can't read people's intentions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Lots of practice.

For me it works like an elaborate pattern recognition tree.

e.g. This face in this context means x thing 75% of the time so far.

Then it's "strong opinions held weakly", you now have a working hypothesis but it's just that, a hypothesis.

Every facial/body/word/etc change could be a modifier to the previous assumption. You could also match some newly remembered memory to the situation that also changes the impression of what is going on.

It's exhausting, but it becomes easier with practice.

It's gets more refined the more you are around the same people, as you get a 'feel' for their patterns.

You also start to build up a library of 'shortcuts' that you can sometimes apply to unfamiliar situations/people.

At some point it starts to become 'muscle memory' and the energy required to do it is greatly reduced.

YMMV however, I've no idea if this will work for anyone else in the way I have described.

I'd also say to remember that everyone is guessing to some degree or another it's just that your guesses might require a bit more intention, whichever method (s) you settle on.

You do what you can with what you have, that is the best that can be reasonably expected of anyone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

This is very interesting. Have you considered studying social engineering? - I've found SE techniques quite understandable to help form a process to deal with people in a 'useful' way. Many years ago I was sent on a positive influencing course via work and discovered that most NTs can be quite easily manipulated with a few simple tricks. In the end I stopped using them as it felt unfair.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

This is similar to how I function with reading people now. I have to build a profile of every person in my head. When I first meet them, I know the elementary ones like smiling, nothing, and crying. If it looks like I'm going to be around this person for a while, I start noting what their faces look like when they're feeling a certain way. If it's someone I will need to trust, I will ask them a question they will lie to to see what they look like when they are lying.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I recommend reading political savvy