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[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I’m not aware of a single jurisdiction on the planet that makes Tesla liable for what the vehicle does when autopilot is enabled. In order to activate autopilot you have to accept about 3 different disclaimers on the car’s screen that state VERY clearly how you are still responsible for the vehicle and you must intervene if it starts behaving dangerously.

I’ve been driving with autopilot for over 2 years, and while it has done some stupid stuff before (taking wrong turns, getting in the wrong lane, etc.), it has NEVER come close to hitting another vehicle or person. Any time something out of the ordinary happens, I disengage autopilot and take over.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Condolences on owning a tesla

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (12 children)

Bro bought a Tesla just 2 years ago. Long after it was very widely known just how much of an arsehole Musk was, and after many other excellent EVs were on the market.

I'll let you draw the conclusions from those facts.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Turn to the right and brake. Why are they dancing in a narrow two-lane road anyway?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

How fast am I driving down this two lane void with no guard rails

[–] [email protected] 53 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (4 children)

WRONG!!!

Hard braking may increase your insurance costs: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/11/technology/carmakers-driver-tracking-insurance.html

TL;DR: General Motors was selling customer driving data to LexisNexis which provided them to insurance companies. Hard braking also contributed to a higher risk factor.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nah bro if it's the choice between raising insurance cost vs killing people + jail time for manslaughter + eating the guilt for the rest of my life, i'll take the insurance.

Also wth america your capitalism and your priority is wack.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

I don't like the spying aspect but it is unironically true that if you slam your brakes at every red light you are driving in a dangerous fashion. It's more so about the pattern than a one off event though.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Woah woah woah. I'm 99% certain that's not how cars work.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Pedal. To the. Metal.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, but this is the vanilla trolley problem. Save all but one or avoid going to jail.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I think that's the point. There's a follow-up about killing the people tying others to the rails that fits.

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